Homosexual Ambassador causing problems.

http://www.frc.org/get/n02a004.cfm ^ | January 7, 2002 | By Fred Jackson and Rusty Pugh

[sinkspur]

Perhaps they appreciate being sent an Ambassador who is a seasoned diplomate rather than a political hanger-on. Do you find that too difficult to fathom?

If that's the only post of mine you read, perhaps you should read the others.

I'm arguing from the same side you are.

[GreatOne]

Please quote one Romanian by name who has objected to Guest in any way.

Why don't you go read the article (One Romanian professor, in a letter to a Bucharest daily newspaper, said that "Romanians . . . cannot comprehend homosexual acts in any other way but as a deviation from the natural order and the world created by the Lord," and he noted that the Guest appointment "generates bewilderment, indignation, and disgust among the Romanians."), instead of wasting your time pushing your sodomite agenda and taking your own quotes out of context regarding the Founding Fathers and Christianity. All they're saying is that there is nothing wrong with Christianity itself, but there is when it is bastardized and used as a form of government itself, and used to control and oppress people. No duh!

(And don't say "The Romanian in the article was specifically quoted", like a little 2 year old would.)

[GreatOne]

My last sentence should read: (And don't say "The Romanian in the article wasn't specifically quoted by name", like a little 2 year old would.)

Excuse me.

[JMJ333]

Do you have any core convictions? Do you believe in concrete truths or is everything subjective on a "feel-good" utopian plane?

[Silverdrake]

The appointment has ramifications, one of which is legitmizatio of a lifestyle that is morally wrong.

Is it a mutually accepted relationship between consenting adults? Then it is moral. Period. End of line.

[JMJ333]

Does post 325 apply to you also?

[Silverdrake]

However, fornicators and adulterers aren't trying to change the fabric of society in the same manner as the homosexuals.

There are many who are trying to change the fabric of society. Some -- you among them, apparently -- are trying to change it into a theocracy.

[Silverdrake]

I long ago realized that witholding legal marriage from homosexuals is a violation of their Constitutional guarantee to equal protection under the law. Nor was the "Defense of Marriage Act" anything but a doubly unconstitutional caving-in to religious extremists with no basis in the enumerated powers allowed to Congress.

No one has the right to force you to worship Vishnu, or fast during Rammadan, or have your heart torn out to nourish Huizilopoctli. Where then do you get the idea that you have the right to demand everyone else live according to your religious tenets?

[Silverdrake]

Yes, I have core convictions. Many of them, perhaps most of them, are found in the Constitution of the United States. Others formed from other sources:

An it harm none, do as you will.

Whatever you do, for good or ill, comes back to you three times over.

A bigot is someone who resolutely and without hesitation hates a certain class of people. I hate bigots and other people who are willfully stupid. So, I'm a bigot. You got a problem with that?

[Roscoe]

Quite useful for those who think Conservative means being a Colony of Britain.

1791 is after 1776.

Interesting that many of the colonies whose legal codes you so admire also had laws recognizing the buying and selling of living human beings as a legitimate economic enterprise.

Slavery was unknown to the common law.

[ArGee]

Certainly while serving, an ambassador should avoid an prsonal controversies whenever possible.

You are making a generic case, I am discussing a specific one. To support the homosexual agenda is destructive, even when at home. That was my only point.

Shalom.

[JMJ333]

There are many who are trying to change the fabric of society. Some -- you among them, apparently -- are trying to change it into a theocracy.

I see. So, trying to keep the homosexual lifestyle from being normalized as a legitimate and healthy behavior makes me one who is trying to chage the society into a theocracy. That has to be the silliest rebuttal I've read yet.

[JMJ333]

Yes, I have core convictions. Many of them, perhaps most of them, are found in the Constitution of the United States. Others formed from other sources:

The founders of the constitution based this country on Judeo-Christianity. It is our foundation.

An it harm none, do as you will.

You are a moral relativist. Actions and behavior have consequences. You can either address it or continue to stick your head in the sand.

Whatever you do, for good or ill, comes back to you three times over.

I can go with that. =)

A bigot is someone who resolutely and without hesitation hates a certain class of people. I hate bigots and other people who are willfully stupid. So, I'm a bigot. You got a problem with that?

Are you calling me a bigot and saying you hate me? All because I don't want homosexuality on par with heterosexuality? No--I don't have a problem with it. I feel rather sorry for you.

[Varda]

" If the ambassador is really keeping it to himself, it doesn't matter."

If I may intrude on your conversation a little. Mr. Guest is clearly not "keeping it to himself" as this little blurb from Romania's homosexual activists show.

"His Excellency, Mr. Michael Guest, US Ambassador to Romania, sends his best wishes to the LGBT Community in Romania
His Excellency, Mr. Michael Guest, US Ambassador to Romania, sends his best wishes to the LGBT Community in Romania
He sent his message through Adrian Coman, Executive Director of ACCEPT, who had the honor to meet the US Ambassador and his partner - Alex Nevarez - at a reception offered by Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands and President Ion Iliescu in Bucharest, November 14, 2001. " link
ACCEPT is the first Romanian non-governmental organisation working for the LGBT people

ps- You couldn't pay me to vote for President Bush

[ArGee]

If I may intrude on your conversation a little. Mr. Guest is clearly not "keeping it to himself" as this little blurb from Romania's homosexual activists show.

You make my point. If it matters - that is, if we know - he is clearly not keeping it to himself.

If someone doesn't make a stink about it (pun intended) how do you know if he suffers from homosexual attraction?

Shalom.

[SuperLuminal]

Where is Vlad when we really need him?

[ArGee]

SMACK DEAD and SPOT ON

Which, of course, is a guarantee that I will get flamed for saying it.

Thanks.

Shalom.