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BATF: Coerced Consent in Pinedale, Wyoming (Direct Link to Article)
Pinedale Roundup; Pinedale, Wyoming ^ | January 10, 2002 | Jason Mundy & Rob Shaul,editor

Posted on 01/13/2002 8:58:10 AM PST by Old Badger

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ATF Search - Coerced Consent
Man agrees to search at gunpoint
by Jason Mundy

ATF Search

At approximately 9:30 on a quiet Sunday morning last month, Bargerville resident Craig Storer woke to someone pounding so hard on his front door that it was "literally shaking the trailer." Running in his pajamas to look out the window, Mr. Storer saw a Deputy Sheriff's truck and a metallic silver vehicle parked in his driveway. Unknown to Mr. Storer, outside a swarm of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agents and Sublette County Sheriff's deputies had been positioned at various locations around his bright blue trailer. Law enforcement officers were also positioned on Highway 191, leading toward the frontage road where Mr. Storer's trailer is located.

ATF agents and Sheriff's deputies were there to search Mr. Storer's trailer for illegal firearms. According to Sheriff's Detective, Paul Raftery, the Sheriff's office had information that Mr. Storer possessed automatic weapons and explosives. Because the Sheriff's office has no jurisdiction to enforce laws pertaining to illegal firearms, the ATF was contacted. The ATF began its own investigation of Mr. Storer, said Mr. Raftery.

The ATF and the Sheriff's deputies arrived at Mr. Storer's trailer without a search warrant.

According to Mr. Raftery, the ATF had been working with the Assistant U.S. Attorney and was in the process of getting a warrant, but it was the decision of Resident Agent in Charge, Gilbert Salinas of the ATF office in Cheyenne, to go ahead with the planned raid, without one.

Jeans still in his hand, Mr. Storer opened the door of the trailer leading outside to a small front porch. What he saw was the muzzle of a pistol pointing directly at his head. His first thought was to back up.

"I thought I was being robbed," said Mr. Storer.

Officers began shouting orders for Mr. Storer to turn around. As he did, he caught sight of two other men outside a small window pointing pistols in his direction. According to Mr. Storer, none of the men who had guns pointed at him identified themselves as law enforcement officers.

One of the ATF agents ordered Mr. Storer to stand face against a nearby wall with his hands on his head, and then proceeded to search him.

"At the time I still didn't realize that this was ATF," he said.

The agent then asked who was in the house and Mr. Storer called out to his girlfriend, who was in the back bedroom.

"They told me they were there to search the house. I asked then if they had a warrant," said Mr. Storer. They did not. An ATF agent instead presented Mr. Storer with a consent form to sign allowing the ATF agents and the Sheriff's deputies to search his trailer.

Mr. Storer, still in his pajamas and his hands on his head, surrounded by armed officers, was given an option. He and his girlfriend, who was wearing a t-shirt and little else, could wait outside in the cold until the ATF could obtain a warrant on a Sunday morning, or he could just sign the consent.

Mr. Storer was furious that both law enforcement agencies arrived to search his trailer with no warrant, based on information provided to the ATF and deputies by informants. He said if they ATF was keeping surveillance on him and had received warnings about supposed illegal weapons, they should have gotten a warrant.

"This sort of think happened in Nazi Germany," said Mr. Storer.

" My girlfriend was freaking out. I'm thinking do I sign or don't I? I don't owe them anything. I haven't done anything wrong."

Mr. Storer, still at gunpoint, decided to sign the consent form.

Once they had consent, agents began asking Mr. Storer if he had any illegal weapons. They wanted to know what guns he had, how many guns he had, and where they were located. They asked him if he had or had made any silencers. For the next twenty minutes ATF agents and Sheriff's deputies searched the trailer. They rummaged through boxes, examined gun cases and rifled through shelves looking for illegal firearms and parts kits that could convert guns from semi-automatic to fully automatic.

What they found were a couple of shotguns, two semi-automatic assault rifles ( a replica of an AK-47 and an M-16) a 9mm Berreta pistol, a .50 caliber single-shot, long-range rifle and a few other standard field rifles. All the guns found were legal. However, the .50 caliber did raise some eyebrows with ATF agents, said Mr. Storer.

"I've shot rounds through a car hood from a mile away with this gun," said Mr. Storer, as he displayed the rifle. The length of the gun is about 3 feet long, painted camouflage and looks menacing. Mr. Storer said there is a movement by the US government to classify the gun as a destructive weapon, which could make it illegal to purchase, even as a parts kit.

But the ATF did not confiscate the gun, which they had the legal authority to do under new anti-terrorism laws passed after Sept. 11. Mr. Storer readily admitted that he had bought the gun as a parts kit from a dealer, who he thought, had been arrested earlier for having 32 unregistered machine guns.

As the search continued, one sheriff's deputy emerged from the back bedroom and walked into where Mr. Storer, his girlfriend and a few agents and deputies were sitting, carrying a small bottle containing a white powder.

"They actually asked me if it was Anthrax," said Mr. Storer. Instead of Anthrax, the powder was cretonne, a dietary supplement for weightlifters, said Mr. Storer. The bottle and powder were taken and have not been returned by Sheriff's Deputies," he said.

After the search was conducted, which did not turn up anything illegal, both agencies vacated the trailer, leaving Mr. Storer angered and dumbfounded at what just happened.

"One of the agents told me as he was leaving that it must of been one of my doper friends that turned me in. That really pissed me off."

Mr. Storer has no prior convictions in Wyoming and said that his record is completely clean, except for a DUI a couple of years ago. He emphasized how frightening it was that a government agency could barge in his home and intimidate him into signing a consent to search form simply on the claims of an informant.

"My home is my sovereignty. My entire soul, everything I have in this world was bared to Sublette County and the Federal Government, legally," he concluded.

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Copyright © 2001 The Pinedale Roundup
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The Pinedale Roundup, PO Box 100, Pinedale, WY 82941   Phone 307-367-2123
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From the pages of
The Pinedale Roundup
Volume 96, Number 15 - January 10, 2002
brought to you online by Pinedale Online


Opinion

by Rob Shaul, Editor

Jack-booted Thugs

Jack-booted Thugs?

Craig Storer's description of the Sheriff and ATF raid on his home last month is chilling. First, I find it incredible that law enforcement officers began the search without a search warrant.

Second, the Sheriff and ATF conducted a raid of this magnitude with obviously scant information and justification is frightful.

Finally, the fact that the Sheriff and the ATF seem to be pointing fingers at each other for this incident is shameless.

Concerning the search warrant, the officers say they were in the process of getting one, but were afraid Mr. Storer might flee, so they conducted the raid without one. I'm not sure I believe them. Perhaps the ATF couldn't find a judge who would grant a search warrant based on the scant information they had about Mr. Storer - so they decided to coerce a consent search instead. We're going to follow up with the U.S. Attorney to see if indeed a search warrant was in the process.

Based on Mr. Storer's description of the events, he has a good legal argument that his consent to the search was coerced. The Sheriff's Deputies and ATF agents may have seriously violated Mr. Storer's civil rights.

I'm disappointed in Sheriff Hank Ruland for this debacle. In his press release and subsequent interview, Sheriff Ruland indicated that because his deputies and the ATF agents found no illegal guns in Mr. Storer's house, it was no big deal. But it is a big deal. Before waking someone up early on a Sunday morning with a swarm of officers waving guns around, you'd think law enforcement would be very sure it was going to find something. This kind of heavy-handed law enforcement isn't supposed to happen in America.

Mr. Ruland also failed to mention in his press release or interview that the deputies and ATF agents didn't have a search warrant before they conducted the raid. This is a major omission.

The ATF won't talk to us. The Sheriff's department points fingers at the feds for making the final call on the decision to go with the raid.

Ultimately, the responsibility rests with Sheriff Ruland as the elected official for law enforcement in Sublette County. He owes Mr. Storer and his constituents an explanation.

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I apologize to all for having to repost this article.

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Thanks for your patience.

1 posted on 01/13/2002 8:58:10 AM PST by Old Badger
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To: Old Badger
As the search continued, one sheriff's deputy emerged from the back bedroom and walked into where Mr. Storer, his girlfriend and a few agents and deputies were sitting, carrying a small bottle containing a white powder.

What did he consent to be searched? If the Constitution was still an impediment to tyranny, and if they had an actual search warrant then searching for guns would not allow them to search for anything, such as a bottle. And looking into medicine cabinets to find full auto guns is ridiculous. Even if it was in plain site no person should have to explain what he has in his home not related to evidence a real crime.

I think many Americans dont care about this because they would see it as some guy in a trailer getting roughed up. Many figure that so long as they have money to pay for lawyers (the button men of the syndicate) they dont have to be concerned with such despicable tactics. But everyone should keep in mind that only after having practiced on and secured the priviledge to violate the weakest members of society will government then go after the strongest.
2 posted on 01/13/2002 9:09:35 AM PST by verboten
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To: Old Badger
Mr. Storer, still at gunpoint, decided to sign the consent form.

Next time, take Nancy Reagan's advice.

3 posted on 01/13/2002 9:26:47 AM PST by ravinson
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To: Old Badger
Those ATF guys were stupid. This is going to be all over the media.
4 posted on 01/13/2002 9:28:16 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64
Heheh, no it won't, nothing the ATF does is ever all over the media -- and if it is, it's shown positively. Bah. The ATF is a bunch of incompetent rejects from all the other, good agencies. We'd be better off simply dissolving it.
5 posted on 01/13/2002 9:33:09 AM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: Old Badger
What's happening is a setting of the stage for more Ruby Ridges and Wacos. Bush has not brought responsibility and consequences for prior events. This has licensed a new bunck of roges on the loose. What we need is a president.
6 posted on 01/13/2002 9:36:24 AM PST by RLK
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To: Old Badger
BATF (with .50 cal) "My, what big teeth you have Grandma!"

Untouchable (sub-gov't. class) citizen-type: "It ain't about duck hunting " (coming to a city near you . . .)

7 posted on 01/13/2002 9:40:47 AM PST by Crowcreek
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To: Old Badger
This is the kind of LAW ENFORCEMENT that the WACO and RUBY RIDGE murders were made of. It is my sence that most of the agents working for the ATF/FBI/IRS work there for one primary reason, THEY THRIVE ON THE EUPHORIA OF THE POWER OF THEIR POSITION. It is most unfortunate that these are exactly the kinds of people our federally elected officials like in these agencies because they will enforce unconstitutional laws without question. AG Ashcroft ought to be catching hell over this incident. Until WE, the law abiding US citizens demand that the ATF/FBI/IRS thugs are held personally responsible for operating outside of the Constitutional law we can reasonably expect it will continue.
8 posted on 01/13/2002 9:41:37 AM PST by drypowder
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To: drypowder
" Until WE, the law abiding US citizens demand that the ATF/FBI/IRS thugs are held personally responsible for operating outside of the Constitutional law we can reasonably expect it will continue."

I agree -- But I think the plot has progressed to the point where the beach-bully is kicking Large amounts of sand in the weakling's face saying : "Whattaya gonna do about it??"

9 posted on 01/13/2002 9:55:10 AM PST by Crowcreek
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To: drypowder
THEY THRIVE ON THE EUPHORIA OF THE POWER OF THEIR POSITION

Yes, the worst will seek out these positions as a legal way to harass, and overpower people. Who would relish kicking in someones door to look for guns? They aren't catching a real criminal (weapons charges are a statute crime). They aren't very likely actually preventing a crime, as much as they claim to be. They are just kicking in doors in the middle of the night as an intruder with a badge.

These people also get strength in their numbers. And like SS officers will say 'I"m only doing my job.' And each time one of them gets away with it another will try to take it a step further. Where are all those people who insisted that Bush waived a magic wand and cleaned out the rogue agents? I guess he missed a few.
10 posted on 01/13/2002 9:57:01 AM PST by verboten
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To: Old Badger; Squantos; harpseal; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
I know that you guys have already seen this (except for possibly Jeff who didn't comment on the other threads), but I thought I'd ping in with my own $0.02.

Guns pointed at the head of a man for whom they have so little evidence that they can't even get some sort of "emergency" search warrant issued on short notice. They stuck a freakin' gun in his face without cause, and threatened to oust him from his own home (once again without cause) unless he signed their consent to search form. Unbelieveable!

This didn't happen to me, but I'm almost as mad as if it had.

One small misstep by this man and he would have been dead. It's a good thing he didn't answer the door they way I do in the middle of the night: gun in hand. If this had been me, I would have been dead. What's a guy to do when unidentified people show up at his door late at night and then jam a pistol in his face?

I'm finding it almost impossible to express how angry this has made me. Last time I checked, this is still the United States of America. But if this incident just goes away, and no one is held accountable, I'll have to start questioning whether it really is anymore.

11 posted on 01/13/2002 10:12:36 AM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
It isn't America anymore.

It hasn't been for a very long time.

L

12 posted on 01/13/2002 10:23:28 AM PST by Lurker
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To: Thornwell Simons
The ATF is a bunch of incompetent rejects from all the other, good agencies. We'd be better off simply dissolving it.

But then who would the DEA have to look down on?

13 posted on 01/13/2002 11:05:47 AM PST by Grut
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To: Old Badger
Whoah! Quite chilling.
14 posted on 01/13/2002 11:16:11 AM PST by SoDak
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To: Cobra64
"This is going to be all over the media."

I've sent these articles to a number of U.S.Senate and U.S.Congressional Representatives including Rep. Bob Barr. Also on the email list was Brit Hume and Sean Hannity of Fox News.

15 posted on 01/13/2002 11:20:24 AM PST by Old Badger
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
LEO's better get wise fast, lots of homes now have ADT style alarm systems and a panic alarm starts a recorder, in some cases both video and voice and the storage of the info is at the monitoring facility and IMHO they will have to have a court order to sieze that from the private company and or shut up all employees who view and are aware of such a unconstitutional criminal act of home invasion.

Add to that the small digital voice recorders that "some" (;o) carry on the visors of their autos and turn on when stopped by LEO's or involved in an accident.........

I even have a small 36 picture capacity disposable camera for such "accidents" should they ever occur.........albeit hard to snap pics while being cuffed and stuffed.

Indeed a sad day when such as this is allowed to go unexplained and those involved held unaccountable for their actions.

Stay Safe John........

16 posted on 01/13/2002 12:00:04 PM PST by Squantos
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To: ravinson
So he could be 'accidentally' shot?
17 posted on 01/13/2002 12:54:40 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Squantos
I am gonna start raising Hogs!
18 posted on 01/13/2002 1:19:22 PM PST by Area51
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To: Area51
Surround your house with geese at night. The Feds will be sorry if they try to sneek up on them.
19 posted on 01/13/2002 3:09:12 PM PST by IncredibleHulk
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To: Area51
They did a job on Jimmy Hoffa :o)....... I would suspect !?!??!

Stay Safe !

20 posted on 01/13/2002 3:29:41 PM PST by Squantos
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