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BUSH SPENDING BILL LARGEST EVER
Fox News ^ | January 11, 2001 | Staff

Posted on 01/14/2002 2:48:10 AM PST by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON As anticipated, President Bush will propose a 2003 spending plan that will include increased funding for the war, but the first deficit forecast since President Clinton's February 1997 budget proposal.

The budget plan, which will be for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, is the first in history to exceed $2 trillion, according to budget chief Mitch Daniels. Bush plans to push his economic priorities next week in a three-state tour.


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1 posted on 01/14/2002 2:48:10 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: OKCSubmariner; Askel5; ratcat; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Sandy; Lurker; t-shirt; nunyabidness
BTTT
2 posted on 01/14/2002 2:54:53 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
bttt
3 posted on 01/14/2002 2:59:04 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Uncle Bill
Damn!!! The DemoPublicans spent more money??? I am shocked, I tell you, shocked....
4 posted on 01/14/2002 3:12:28 AM PST by unamused
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To: Uncle Bill
Gosh, why would he do that?

Do you think it just mught possibly be because we are at WAR?

5 posted on 01/14/2002 3:19:17 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Uncle Bill
...the surest way to bust this economy is to increase the role and the size of the federal government...
George W. Bush


6 posted on 01/14/2002 3:19:48 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Uncle Bill
Pretty sad, really. We said bush would take a different road so as not to upset or wake the sheeple and still take us to the same spot gore would have. Only, I thought it would be much much slower ride.

I was wrong.

7 posted on 01/14/2002 3:21:45 AM PST by Fighting Falcons
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To: Uncle Bill
Great Post, but I give you 1 hr before the Flames start erupting from The Fan Club.
8 posted on 01/14/2002 3:23:20 AM PST by orlop9
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To: Uncle Bill
Bush on Kennedy: 'I actually like the fellow' ... "He is a fabulous United States senator," the president said.

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I like George Bush. He has turned out to be every bit the brainless superficial nincompoop I said he would be two years ago. In so doing, he has made me look like a genius. --which I am.

9 posted on 01/14/2002 4:01:48 AM PST by RLK
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To: Uncle Bill
Every spending bill for God-knows-how-many years has been "the largest spending bill ever".
10 posted on 01/14/2002 4:05:46 AM PST by DallasJ7
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To: Miss Marple
Do you think it just mught possibly be because we are at WAR?

And signing the pork-barrel farm bill and the outrageous Education Dept. bill, for starters.

11 posted on 01/14/2002 4:07:00 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Fighting Falcons
We said bush would take a different road so as not to upset or wake the sheeple and still take us to the same spot gore would have. Only, I thought it would be much much slower ride. I was wrong.

Please. Bush is merely a stop-gap measure so conservatives can regroup and fight for real long-term change.

12 posted on 01/14/2002 4:09:09 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: RLK
I like George Bush. He has turned out to be every bit the brainless superficial nincompoop I said he would be two years ago. In so doing, he has made me look like a genius. --which I am

JMO, but like Hillary you don't wear hubris very well.

13 posted on 01/14/2002 4:10:19 AM PST by Dane
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To: Uncle Bill
He will visit a John Deere plant in Moline, Ill., a farm seed mill in Aurora, Mo., and the port of New Orleans to talk up his latest proposals for free trade as a way to create jobs in order to strengthen the market.

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That bit of mindless chatterboxing ought to lose a few million votes. Unless we can keep one hell of a war going to maintain unconditional jingoistic patriotic fervor, Hillary will be in in 2004.

With the amount of technology we are exporting, the investment in foreign countries, the loss of jobs. the country should be a basket case depression.

Like father, like son.

14 posted on 01/14/2002 4:11:51 AM PST by RLK
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To: Dane
JMO, but like Hillary you don't wear hubris very well.

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I'm making a personal social fashion statement.

When anyone tells me Teddy Kennedy is an outstanding United States Senator I label them for what they are. An idiot.

15 posted on 01/14/2002 4:16:54 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
When anyone tells me Teddy Kennedy is an outstanding United States Senator I label them for what they are. An idiot.

And the President of the United States should lable him an idiot, opening himself to sniping from the press.

One thing the American people these days don't like are partisan hacks. Ted Kennedy is going to show his true self and attack Bush with a speech that there should be tax hikes. Ted Kennedy is playing into Bush's trap.

16 posted on 01/14/2002 4:27:48 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
One thing the American people these days don't like are partisan hacks.

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Since when do you speak for the American people Mr. Attempt At Self Fulfilling Prophecy? The Clintons are unocontested. Teddy Kennedy is an outstanding likable senator. Is Bush a partisan hack working for the Democrats?

17 posted on 01/14/2002 4:34:56 AM PST by RLK
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Bush is merely a stop-gap measure so conservatives can regroup and fight for real long-term change.

Somebody please pass the oxygen.... that one's making me faint!

18 posted on 01/14/2002 4:38:03 AM PST by Beenliedto
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To: RLK
Since when do you speak for the American people Mr. Attempt At Self Fulfilling Prophecy?

Just looking at your strategy and it didn't work. Newt Gingrich did what you wanted and was lambasted by the press and the people.

I think Bush is follwing the Reagan model. You never saw Reagan say bad words about Tip O'Neill. I would rather have Bush following Reagan's lead rather than Gingrich's.

19 posted on 01/14/2002 4:41:11 AM PST by Dane
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To: Uncle Bill
This is an idiotic post! Someone please sight one example of a war that the United States fought without running a deficit!! Someone name me one defense contractor that works for free!!! If you want to blame someone, then blame the man who is responsible for wasting our nation's supply of cruise missles bombing empty tents- William Jefferson Clinton. He is the reason that we have to spend money to re-equip, and re-supply the Military.

As for the expanded entitlement programs the World Trade Center was attacked and destroyed- remember!?! The U.S. economy took a BIG hit!!! This is an exception to the rule!!! We are at war, and we have a set of circumstances that require immediate action, if our nation is to recover quickly. I swear I think some of you are down with the TALIBAN!!! This post belongs on the Democratic Underground site!!!

20 posted on 01/14/2002 4:50:32 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
BWAAAAAAAAA! That's a good one!
21 posted on 01/14/2002 4:51:10 AM PST by Fighting Falcons
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To: Uncle Bill
You should never have posted this. Upon the inauguration of Dubya, Free Republic stopped being an oasis of truth in the quagmire of chaos that is the Internet. Instead, it is a brain-washing device for the religious right and a promotional vehicle for the Republican party. The only posts welcome here anymore are publicity pics of the President's day, racist anti-Islam propaganda and stories reversing 200 years of science on evolution.

Please don't expose these poor souls to the truth. They don't care about the truth. They "won," don't you know, and to a generation raised on video games, that's all that matters.

22 posted on 01/14/2002 4:51:51 AM PST by massadvj
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To: Dane
Gingrich is not my model. He had too many faults and erraticisms that canceled his virtues. In the Reagan era I happen to remember Republican national TV commercials portrayinng a semi-drunk charicature of Tip O'Neil. Reagan could do things, or not do things, the Bushs couldn't and can't because he created a momentum he brought into the White House. That momentum spoke so that Reagan didn't need to. Additionally, Reagan had consistency and brains.

To my knowledge I don't remember Reagan building leftist degenerate Ted Kennedy up as being a great senator. --or is my memory fading... Perhaps you can refresh it.

23 posted on 01/14/2002 4:52:11 AM PST by RLK
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To: Uncle Bill
Wake up!!
China, India, Pakistan, Marco Island, etc. EVERYONE is 'talking' Nuke wars possible!

"WE NEED A COMPLETE 'STAR-WARS' DEFENCE SYSTEM NOW!!!

The 'threat' of a (WTC) type of Nuke launch is a 'real' terror!
What do we do? Wait again and 'see'??
'Star-Wars' Now!!!

24 posted on 01/14/2002 4:54:31 AM PST by maestro
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To: Uncle Bill
Every year it's the largest ever. Haven't ever seen it smaller. It's always adjusted up for inflation.
25 posted on 01/14/2002 4:56:00 AM PST by xzins
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To: RLK
"...He has turned out to be every bit the brainless superficial nincompoop I said he would be two years ago. In so doing, he has made me look like a genius. --which I am...."

I know just what you mean. And doesn't it feel wonderful to be able to shout: "I told you so!" as they slam the coffin lid shut?

26 posted on 01/14/2002 4:59:18 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: xzins
Every year it's the largest ever. Haven't ever seen it smaller. It's always adjusted up for inflation.

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This is of necessity somewhat true. The dollar is worth about 1/10th of what it was 30 or 35 years ago necessitating a corresponding increase in expendatures to accomplins the same tasks.

27 posted on 01/14/2002 4:59:50 AM PST by RLK
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
And doesn't it feel wonderful to be able to shout: "I told you so!" as they slam the coffin lid shut?

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No. It is extremely frustrating.

28 posted on 01/14/2002 5:02:24 AM PST by RLK
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To: Dane
"...Newt Gingrich did what you wanted and was lambasted by the press and the people...."

What on earth are you taliking about? In his first speech as Speaker Of the House he salaamed 5 times towards the legacy of FDR. Then he proposed lap-top computers for evey inner-city school child.

The competeing tribe in the One Party System demonized him--but he was no conservative. Or did you think that one of the warring families in The War Of The Roses was really going to fundametally alter the social structure of its time if it won?

29 posted on 01/14/2002 5:04:50 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: RLK
You see the train coming down the track. Everybody tells you you are wrong. The train runst them over leaving wheel-tracks on them, and with their last dying delusional breath they still tell you you are wrong. I wouldn't care, but they take me with them.
30 posted on 01/14/2002 5:06:19 AM PST by RLK
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To: Uncle Bill
In the meantime, Daniels, director of the Office of Management and Budget, while not offering an exact dollar figure, said this year's budget shortfall will be less than 1 percent of the size of the U.S. economy.

That would translate into about $100 billion or less, figuring that the economy is now about $10 trillion strong.

Where is this 10 trillion dollars?

Is it in goods and services?

Is it in cash in the bank?

Is it in accounts payable to this country by other economies that are almost defunct?

Is it in gold in Ft Knox or other precious metals worth 10 trillion dollars?

Or is it like Enron and who knows how many other corporations that not only do not have the proverbial "pot" but can't even get close to a "window"?

Our ability to build a better mouse trap is not worth a lot if nobody but us can buy it!

Positive thinking alone will not improve this country's present condition, nor putting our heads in the sand.

With HONEST and COURAGEOUS leadership from both sides of the aisle, and with God's help and a "long handle spoon", we can get the bitter pill of a solid recovery down.

31 posted on 01/14/2002 5:07:07 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: RLK
But RLK LOOK!! LOOK!! That light! Over there! It might be. I could be. It IS!!! It's the light at the end of the tunnel!! See how it grows brighter and brighter?!.......Wait a minute. No, no I'm not so sure.....Run RLK! Run for your life!! It's not a light at all!!! It's another train!!!
34 posted on 01/14/2002 5:22:38 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: semper_libertas
"...but it was ILLEGAL...."

YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS.

(Life is simple, really......)

35 posted on 01/14/2002 5:24:37 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: semper_libertas
Bull Pucky! I don't believe that bud! The Office of the President cannot arbitrarily pass Bills. That is the function of the Legislative Branch of government. I know DARN WELL that Congress would not sit idly by and let ANY President usurp the powers delegated to the Legislative Branch of government!! That has been proven (repeatedly) in the past. Take your load of manure, and put it on your garden!!
36 posted on 01/14/2002 5:24:38 AM PST by Destructor
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To: RLK
Every year it's the largest ever. Haven't ever seen it smaller. It's always adjusted up for inflation.

It's not just inflation. It's also the fact that every year new spending gets added on and none ever gets taken off. So the federal government continues to fund New Deal and Great Society programs in addition to devising new constituencies and new ways to reward them.

The biggest problem, of course, is that a full 2/3 of the federal budget is spent on maintaining the biggest and worst-run pension fund in history, and the biggest and worst-run HMO in history. As the population ages, this bubble keeps growing and growing. And the Republicans will do absolutely nothing about it because the biggest beneficiaries of these programs happen to be rich Republican senior citizens who live in expensive gated communities and live much longer than their Democratic counterparts.

So go ahead, you suckers. Support your President and his big spending plans. In time, he or some future President will do to the country what Enron did their people; not because he will want to, but because he will have to. And it really won't matter at all whether a Republican or Democrat is in power at the time. But please don't worry. Today's seniors will likely get theirs and be long gone before it happens.

If you want to see the future of America, look to California and Europe. This is irreversible because the people will never vote to take away the elixir. Not even in the face of economic ruin.

37 posted on 01/14/2002 5:25:05 AM PST by massadvj
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Run for your life!! It's not a light at all!!! It's another train!!!

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No, it's not another train. It's another Bush or Clinton running for the presidency.

38 posted on 01/14/2002 5:28:56 AM PST by RLK
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To: Beenliedto
Somebody please pass the oxygen.... that one's making me faint!

Here's the oxygen....other than piddling tax cuts, what has Bush done to reduce the fed gov't?

39 posted on 01/14/2002 5:30:13 AM PST by ServesURight
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To: Beenliedto
"..Somebody please pass the oxygen.... that one's making me faint!..."

Here. Have a pretzel.....

40 posted on 01/14/2002 5:32:15 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: massadvj
It's not just inflation. It's also the fact that every year new spending gets added on and none ever gets taken off.

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It's a combination of two elements: inflation and the fact that each year the government gets into more crap it shouldn't be getting into.

41 posted on 01/14/2002 5:32:17 AM PST by RLK
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Please. Bush is merely a stop-gap measure so conservatives can regroup and fight for real long-term change

I wonder how long this 'stop-gap' measure of Bush and Ashcroft will last...meaning - will the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution already be null and void by the time the Bush administration is through? Already, Ashcroft is taking steps that would do Janet Reno proud.

This 'stop-gap' measure may very well prove to be the final nail in the coffin for a constitutionally-based republic.

42 posted on 01/14/2002 5:33:41 AM PST by fogarty
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To: semper_libertas
"...I am with the Constitution. What do YOU support!..."

I'm in the same coffin as you brother.

My, but it's getting crowded in here. Would you like a pretzel?

46 posted on 01/14/2002 5:59:00 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: semper_libertas
You live in fantasy land.

Oh, really! Then how do you explain the outcome of the last Presidential election? Negative. I do not live in a fantasy land. I don't wear a Tin Foil hat either!

Republicans, right along with Democrats have been raping the Constitution for years.

I know about efforts made by both sides in the past to circumvent the Constitution. I am aware of the ever-expanding role of government, and I don't like it. You, Sir, are ignoring the obvious- no branch of government is going to willingly give up it's power! That's reality, bud!

It took Republicans, led by Bush, to pass that Education Bill, as well as every other unconstitutional law for the past 100 years.

This is the beginnig of real reform in the Educational System. It has taken us 42 years to get where we are now. It will take a while to fix it! That's reality bud!

"2/3rd's of Federal Spending is unconstitutional" -- Dr. W. Williams, Professor Emeritus of Economics, George Mason University.

Largely by demand of the uninformed masses! We have a lot of work to do educating people.

Its all about power buddy. Not ideology. If you think the Republican party politicians have some sort of superior ideology then I pity your naivete.

No, the Republicans don't have a Superior ideology, but they are the best thing going! The Libertarians can't seem to pull their collective heads out of their collective @$$e$ (on the National level) long enough to be electable! That is reality bud!

Did you know the Republican Party platform actually calls for the ABOLISHMENT of the Dept. of Education because it was unconstitutional?

Yeah, I knew that one. It came up in the last election. Look at the Education System. Something has to be done. Government has failed, so time to try something else! The Status Quo hasn't worked. That's reality bud!

That just proves that whatever the platform may be it is just "boob bait for the bubbas", as Sen. Patrick Moynihan once said. Ear Candy for the ignorant.

There's a good person to quote- Sen. Patrick Moynihan! Mr. Freedom himself, right? And you DARE to call me "naive?"

"It is better to allow a scandal to arise than to betray the truth." --Pope Saint Gregory the Great ca. 600 AD

Good Quote!

48 posted on 01/14/2002 6:26:05 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Destructor
You, Sir, are ignoring the obvious- no branch of government is going to willingly give up it's power! That's reality, bud.

When was the last time the possessor of the Authority to Declare War actually did so before the Executive Branch sent our fathers and sons off to foriegn lands?

50 posted on 01/14/2002 6:33:15 AM PST by Fighting Falcons
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