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AMHERST: AMERICAN FLAG SYMBOL OF TERROR: SOUND FILE!!!!
self ^ | 01/14/02 | RaceBannon

Posted on 01/14/2002 8:58:17 AM PST by RaceBannon

Here is a sound file of Jennie Traschen making her infamous statement on September 10, 2001, calling the American Flag a symbol of terrorism. She said this 12 hours before the first plane hit.


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PLEASE FORGIVE THE SOUND QUALITY. IT IS FROM A COPY OF THE TAPE, NOT AN ORIGINAL, PLUS, MY COMPUTER SOUND SYSTEM IS NOT THE BEST.

HER SPEECH IS ON THE TOP AND THE BOTTOM. THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS ME, COMMENTING ON...WELL, YOU'LL HEAR IT. JENNIE WAS COMMENTING ON ME I BELIEVE.

Click here to go to the page. I cannot link directly to the MP3 file, you have to go to the page

1 posted on 01/14/2002 8:58:18 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
good work RaceBannon
2 posted on 01/14/2002 9:00:46 AM PST by Red Jones
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To: RaceBannon; WyldKard; pabianice; doxteve; 537 Votes; Blood of Tyrants...
bump

DO NOT POST PERSONAL INFORMATION ON THIS WOMAN!! SHE HAS BEEN HARRASSED ENOUGH, LET'S LET HISTORY TELL IT ALL.

3 posted on 01/14/2002 9:06:41 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Red Jones
I hope it plays! That site might get swamped!
4 posted on 01/14/2002 9:08:22 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
September 11, 2001: Flags, Amherst and Jennie Traschen

"The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 have transformed Jennie Traschen, a University of Massachusetts physics professor, into a target of harassment and hate.

Critics have publicized her home and e-maiI addresses on the Internet, leading to a flood of nasty calls and computer messages. On her answering machine, strangers have made crude sexual remarks and denounced her as a traitor.

'This nation has been spit on by the likes of this trash,' said an anonymous visitor to an Internet chat site. Another wrote: 'These Marxist traitors should be hanged with piano wire and left to rot in the sun.'

Unlike the backlash against Muslims and Arab-Americans, however, the attacks on Ms. Traschen have nothing to do with her ethnicity or religion. They were sparked by what the diminutive 45-year-old said about the American flag the night before four hijacked planes killed thousands and unleashed a maelstrom of emotion involving patriotism, security and fear.

People in this college town are used to speaking their minds. On the evening of Sept. 10, several dozen of them turned out to do just that at a meeting of the five-member select board that governs Amherst. The meeting had been called to settle a dispute over how often to fly 29 American flags that a group of veterans and volunteers had hung from lamp posts along the town's main thoroughfares.

Roderick Raubeson, a 59-year-old former Marine who heads the town's Veterans' Services office and the local chapter of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, had long been troubled that Amherst, known for its liberal political bent, had never adequately honored its military veterans. And so, in early August, he used $1,000 from the Veterans' Services budget for commemorative activities to buy the flags that he and others then raised downtown.

The flags raised a stir in this town of 36,000 people. Some residents wrote letters to local officials opposing the display altogether. Others said that flying so many flags every day made them just part of the scenery and eroded their meaning. But many local veterans lobbied for the flags to be flown for months at a time.

With several flags already flying daily at government offices, many town officials thought that any additional display should be confined to commemorative holidays, such as Flag Day and the Fourth of July. The issue grew more heated after Labor Day, when the flags were taken down pending a public debate and a decision by the select board at its Sept. 10 meeting.

Ms. Traschen didn't think twice about going to the town hall to make her opinions known. As a little girl, she had attended antiwar protests with her late father, a World War II veteran who often told her that free speech was among the rights the flag stood for. As an adult, she has frequently spoken out against U.S. policies ranging from the deportation of Central American refugees to Washington's support for the now-fallen apartheid regime in South Africa.

At the meeting, which was taped by a public-access cable-TV channel, Ms. Traschen urged people to lobby for more spending on education and health care for veterans rather than on hanging out more flags. Nervously tapping her open hand on the table in front of her, she also said that the flag had not always represented policies to be proud of. But it was one blunt comment that would be reported by local media and repeated again and again on the Internet.

'What the flag is,' she said on the eve of disaster, 'is a symbol of terrorism and death and fear and destruction and oppression.

In hindsight, Ms. Traschen wishes she had explained her thoughts differently. But then, in a town nestled in a peaceful valley in western Massachusetts, she had never had to choose her words with painstaking care. 'There's been a level of repercussion that was totally unanticipated,' she says.

Tuesday morning, Sept. 11, the country awoke to the horror unfolding in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. The calls to Ms. Traschen's home began Wednesday morning. In the first, it took 20 minutes to calm down an irate man from Seattle, who then warned her that her home address and phone number were already circulating on the Web. Another caller asked to speak to the 'terrorist sympathizer.' One suggested that she move to Afghanistan.

For a time, Ms. Traschen and her husband, also a physics professor, tried to discuss the issue with callers. When the attacks grew more vicious, however, they contacted local police, who mounted additional patrols past their home and put an electronic 'tag' on their telephone so that operators would know that any call from the residence should immediately be treated as an emergency.

For a time, additional police officers were also stationed outside town hall, where officials fielded dozens of angry calls and e-mails from around the nation. Some senders had heard rumors that Amherst had ordered the flags taken down after the terrorist attacks; others were convtinced that the town had banned private citizens from flying the flag at home. 'We had all kinds of messages,' says Town Manager Barry Del Castelho. 'It was mostly people telling us to leave town or leave the country.'

What had happened at the Sept. 10 meeting was that the town's select board voted 4-1 to fly the 29 flags only on six specified holidays. In the wake of the terrorist attacks the following morning, however, a group of men in a pickup truck went to the town offices on their own, retrieved the flags and returned them to their downtown sites. Since then, a local pub owner has vowed to raise money to buy even more flags for the main thoroughfares.

Mr. Raubeson, the man who started the flag displays, condemns the threats that Ms. Traschen has received. He also defends her right to free expression - with one caveat: 'When you speak your mind like that, there are consequences.'

In light of the terrorist attacks, the select board hasn't determined if it will remove the 29 flags. If there is another public debate, Ms. Traschen doesn't know if she will be there.

Not that the events of Sept. 11 have altered her opinions. 'To many, many ordinary people in countries around the globe, the U.S. has done terrifying things,' she says. 'If I think about the flag, I have to think about it from the point of view of those people.'

But in Amherst, as in other towns and cities, some things have most assuredly changed since the terrorist attacks. Ms. Traschen no longer tries to discuss the flag with anonymous callers. And unsettled by the sound of her own ringing phone, she frequently leaves home to study or write.

Though fearful about future turmoil for the three-year-old child that she and her husband are in the final stages of adopting, she did write a letter to the local newspaper explaining her views. After receiving what she called 'a spate of e-mails that were especially violent and several were obscene,' she wanted to vent a little and talk to the locals.

'It was a good thing to do,' Ms. Traschen says, noting that at the farmers' market, a lot of people came up to her and said they understood. But she remains upset by the episode and its implications.

'People are going to have a much harder time speaking their minds in this community,' she says." (Jerry Guidera and Robert Tomsho, The Wall Street Journal, October 2, 2001).

7 posted on 01/14/2002 9:17:46 AM PST by rface
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To: RaceBannon
bump
8 posted on 01/14/2002 9:21:13 AM PST by Dante3
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To: RaceBannon
Well... my heart is broken one more time listening to this. I did not know that they flew the UN flag instead of the American flag in Amherst, and it makes me sick.

Thank you, RaceBannon, for speaking up as eloquently as you did. I would have found it hard to restrain myself after listening to that woman.

Thank you for the post.

9 posted on 01/14/2002 9:24:07 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: rface
hehehehe

I was there at that meeting, her call for more spending came right at the end of her speech slamming the US. What a commie!!

10 posted on 01/14/2002 9:25:14 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
You did well, Race. Amherst is truly a town of traitors. That *itch talked of "freedom" but her brand of freedom involved a totalitarian government controlling your entire life.
11 posted on 01/14/2002 9:33:06 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: RaceBannon
What to you bet her father was that professor who pretended to be a vet ?
12 posted on 01/14/2002 9:38:23 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Doctor Raoul, Ann Coulter
Doc, Please bump to her?
13 posted on 01/14/2002 9:42:30 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: WarPaint
I spoke before her, I was the one who made the eloquent comments she spoke of I think, but there were about 4 speakers between me and her.
14 posted on 01/14/2002 9:43:40 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: VRWC_minion
They were supposed to be there, according to her statement, I didnt see her with anyone other than her husband-looking-guy
15 posted on 01/14/2002 9:44:41 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
We live in American,and indeed it is her right to say what she chooses about our Nation....but as was pointed out free speech has consequences.

She is pathetic commie..but it looks like she chose the right town to live in..GEEEEEEEEEEEE

16 posted on 01/14/2002 9:49:12 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RaceBannon
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17 posted on 01/14/2002 10:06:29 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: RaceBannon;VMI70;dave dilegge;seamole
People's Republic of Amherst, American flag, and Race Bannon bump!!
18 posted on 01/14/2002 10:56:31 AM PST by bimmer
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Brother Race, I second your comment about not posting Jennie Trashing the Flag's personal information. It causes more work for the local cops when it happens, and she has already received 1500 emails and tons of negative publicity. Le bump.
19 posted on 01/14/2002 11:01:08 AM PST by bimmer
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