Posted on 01/22/2002 9:45:45 PM PST by t-shirt
Next, they'll go from "misdeamenors" to "traffic tickets".
Do any of us have "rights" any more, or are we merely serfs who have "privileges" at the discretion of our masters?
That is the fundamental question which virtually every issue boils down to.
Our side believes in "rights". The enemy believes in "privileges".
This is an "irreconcilable difference" between the two sides, and the resolution of this issue will determine if we are a nation of Free People or a nation of slaves.
As it stands now, in Michigan one cannot get a CPL (concealed pistols license) if one has had any misdemeanor in the last three years, eight for other ones (usually involving impersonating law enforcement or obstructing LEOs). Of course, it's also a misdemeanor in Michigan to curse within the hearing of women and children. (I kid you not!)
Don't forget to put in the traffic infractions; (shrill anti-rights voice) If they can't respect simple traffic laws, what will they do with a GUN (/shrill anti-rights voice).
Rand pointed this out years ago; if the government made so many laws, and made them incomprehensible, then everyone would be a criminal and subject to their control. Another aspect is that many jobs and careers are being cut off from those with any sort of record. That is a recipe for making a permanent criminal underclass. If we treat a person like a criminal, even after their punishment is done, then they will always disrespect the laws and perform criminal acts. Some people are incorrigibly evil; there's no doubt about that. But why condemn a person to a life of outlawry for potentially minor infractions?
The ex-post-facto nature of this so-called "interpretation" has already been discussed.
They already use some traffic tickets as justification to prohibit CCW license in Michigan under the new "nondiscretionary" law (that's the law that still has the "gun boards" that decide whether or not you're a suitable person -- above and beyond any actual convictions).
BTW, what's that nonsense about "common scolding"? Are they serious? Yeah, stupid question, of course they're serious.
Common scolding. Good grief!
Well, that depends, Travis.
If you consider "rights" as something someone else gives you, then no, they are gone. Never did exist, actually.
If you correctly define "rights" as something you CLAIM as a FREE MAN, then they are yours. Lock, stock and barrel, as long as you live.
The children of today are being hammered day-in and day-out with the PC mindset from the schoolroom to the television shows they watch! Their parents were, for the most part, raised the same way and they no longer possess the strong moral fiber that is required to turn this shameful attack on our freedoms back!!
On the bright side, most of the liberal messengers are the first to be exterminated when the transformation is complete, because they know it was a lie in the first place...ie...Stalinist Russia!!
"Click" goes the ratchet, because the Republicans are too spineless to roll ANY gun laws back.
Lock, stock and barrel, as long as you live.Which may be until you get the "3AM flashbang wakeup call" from your local SWAT team as a known gun law resistor/domestic terrorist.
(Known from "tips", yellow forms, sales records, ammo purchase credit card records etc etc.)
Meanwhile NJ will jail you for an 11 round magazine, ANY 11 round magazine.
MD will take your guns from an ex post facto 20 year old misdemeaonor.
And so on.
Oh well. I did say, "as long as you live."
History proves freedom has a price.
Yes, it does.
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