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'She made a wrong turn'
Richmond Times Dispatch ^
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| BY MARK HOLMBERG
Posted on 01/25/2002 7:19:51 AM PST by putupon
Edited on 07/20/2004 11:46:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Jocelyn S. Stanley, 19, a world traveler from Wisconsin, was a little lost when her car was blocked by two or three young men standing in the middle of a North Richmond street Wednesday afternoon.
The young men - believed to be her age or younger - apparently took offense at having to move, and one of them shot her in the head, Richmond police officials said yesterday. No arrests have been made.
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she was told by Richmond police that one of the suspects told her sister, "You don't belong in this area" before the shooting started."Hate crime?
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posted on
01/25/2002 7:19:51 AM PST
by
putupon
To: putupon
Couldn't be, the victim was white.
To: putupon
I suppose we are to assume the shooters were black and then be ashamed of the assumption. That is the usual tactic of such a carefully worded report.
Had the races of the perpetrators and the victim been reversed... but never mind. We all know. What a waste.
To: A_perfect_lady
This is why I am very, very careful about where I go. I am always very aware of the people around me, and the minute that I think I may be going into a dangerous area I do an instant U-turn whether it is legal or not. I will leave it to you all to figure out what criteria I use to define a dangerous area. You may call me names, but you will never call me a victim.
To: putupon
"..."She was totally nonracial," Reynolds-Agron said by phone from Cambridge....""Now she's totally non-alive," observed LaBelleDameSansMerci nastily.
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To: Billy_bob_bob
That's why I prefer living in the country...the only danger of being shot at is by your friends, and then they won't really try to hit you anyway.
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posted on
01/25/2002 7:48:44 AM PST
by
Pistias
To: Billy_bob_bob
The sad fact about Richmond is... well... you know. The problem that dare not speak its name.
To: putupon
"You don't belong here"???? This is still America isn't it? I belong wherever I want to!
We need Jesse and Mary Francis Berry up there right away this just has to be some misunderstanding!
I say fence off the area and nuke it.
To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
"Now she's totally non-alive," observed LaBelleDameSansMerci nastily. I love the word "nastily", and you use it so well.
To: putupon
Any idea how old her boyfriend is? She was 19, the oldest child of her boyfriend is 7.
11
posted on
01/25/2002 8:26:25 AM PST
by
Wrigley
To: putupon
To: putupon
This is a perfect example of what the death penalty is on the books for; but, Virginia doesn't anymore, right?
13
posted on
01/25/2002 8:31:51 AM PST
by
Pharmboy
To: putupon
How sad. What animals roam the street. Seems as though we have terrorists right here.
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posted on
01/25/2002 8:32:34 AM PST
by
kassie
To: figit
ping
To: A_perfect_lady
That is the usual tactic of such a carefully worded report. You got it. In leftmedia anytime a perp is black, nary a word will be mentioned anywhere, even if a description of a still at large homicidal maniac would help the citizenry protect themselves and provide leads to police.
If the perp is WHITE however, well count on it to be mentioned twice in the first two sentences, along with a booking file photo, and a complete description of the HATE crime.
To: Pharmboy
Virginia doesn't anymore, right?we still have the death penalty, but I doubt these punks get it.
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posted on
01/25/2002 8:41:44 AM PST
by
putupon
To: mudboy Slim; sultan88
Bump to my Richmond FRiends, if they still claim the town....
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posted on
01/25/2002 8:45:51 AM PST
by
AdSimp
To: MRAR15Guy56
I will tell you this if the victim indeed is white and the shooters are black then I will be the first to call for the crime of murder to fall under the hate crime laws of Va. "The statement you don't belong in this area" could and should be shown that the shooting was racial in nature. The law is the law!!!
To: putupon; Administrative Simplification
"...investigators are getting plenty of help from residents in the historic and generally safe North Richmond neighborhood where Stanley died."Yeah, I bet they are!!
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:08:54 AM PST
by
sultan88
To: Trueblackman
To hell with a trial ....just put 'em in a small room with you for a few minutes....black or white....they'll recieve proper justice I'd bet.
Regards to ya TBM!!!!!!
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:10:26 AM PST
by
wardaddy
To: putupon
Excuse me, maybe I read this article too fast. But did it happen to mention the race of these murderers? If not, I'll hazard a guess and say that they were black. And I'm not ashamed to say that. Let's face it, there are alot of criminal white kids out there, but there are boatload more blacks commiting crimes like this. Numbers don't lie. This is a hate crime and those thugs should be put to death.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:12:25 AM PST
by
oldvike
To: bang_list; victoria delsoul; rnmomof7; 2sheep
What a world we live in.
To: All
And at the risk of being labeled a racist, I'll continue my thoughts on why blacks commit violent crimes at a high rate. I recently read an article that said that only 25% of black youths are in a home where their parents are married. IMO, everything starts at home. Children coming from a broken home tend to be at a greater risk of becoming criminals. Until the black community realizes and rectifies this situation, it will never get better. I hope and pray that they will.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:17:12 AM PST
by
oldvike
To: MRAR15Guy56
Swap the players, and we'd never hear the end of it. Ever.Swap the players and we'd have a race riot with Jackson and Sharpton egging them on with their oratory !
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:18:32 AM PST
by
varon
To: putupon
"There's no rhyme or reason for it," said Lt. David Martin, head of the Richmond police homicide squad.Yes there is.
To: Dixie Sass
Ping
To: Trueblackman
Hey TBM, how did the "Day of Repudiation" go? God bless Jesse Peterson.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:20:53 AM PST
by
oldvike
To: Billy_bob_bob
I am always very aware of the people around me, and the minute that I think I may be going into a dangerous area I do an instant U-turn whether it is legal or not.I either do that or execute a "Presidential Motorcade" transit--60+ MPH, ignore any stoplights. Whichever one gets me onto the freeway more quickly is my decision criterion.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:22:34 AM PST
by
Poohbah
To: putupon
Ug what a terrible story.
To: oldvike
""She was totally nonracial," Reynolds-Agron said by phone from Cambridge. She said her sister had fallen in love with Tillman, was caring for his three children and was apparently the only white person living on Tillman's block on Second Avenue, one of the city's tougher neighborhoods.That's the only racially-identifiable phrase in the text ... I guess you can make of that as you will.
That and the phrase ... "one of the suspects told her sister, "You don't belong in this area" before the shooting started.
To: oldvike
Yeah, I'm sure it's just the lack of good father that caused this murder. Not like the institutionalized black racism of the Left has anything to do with it.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:27:26 AM PST
by
Justa
To: MRAR15Guy56
Wait a minute. This is impossible. Not in Richmond. I mean, they put up that statue of Arthur Ashe on the Avenue and they took down all of those pictures of those evil old dead white guys along the river. So all of this racial animosity should have disappeared, right?
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:29:27 AM PST
by
gridlock
To: Justa
What are you saying? That I'm excusing these thugs? Hell no! All I'm saying is that until the parents start acting like parents, they'll keep producing a higher percentage of criminals per capita. Just stating a fact. And yes, the Left is an "enabler" in all of this. I'd agree with that.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:29:58 AM PST
by
oldvike
To: Trueblackman
"The statement you don't belong in this area" could and should be shown that the shooting was racial in nature. The law is the law!!! I don't believe in the hate crime theory. Murder is the ultimate display of hate, no outside consequences need come to bear. However, those more intelligent than I (?), have created this "Law", and it definately should be applied equally, or not at all. "you don't belong in this area" has been used on both sides of this racial divide. Being an older fellow from the South, I know. It could have been just as easily followed up with directions to get the hell out of there, instead of a bullet to the head. Wish more of us could agree to this. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Blackbird.
To: oldvike
It went very well from what I have been told since I live here on the East Coast, but BOND and Rev. Peterson had a great turnout and I hope next year's will be bigger I may try to attend myself.
To: Trueblackman
I'm proud of you and Jesse. You guys have "balls as big as churchbells". You are truly two very brave people. I'm sure the backlash from Jackson and his group has been somewhat vicious at times, but you guys have managed to stay the course. Keep up the good work. Oh yeah, tell Hannity "Hello from Free Republic" next time you talk to him. LOL
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:34:30 AM PST
by
oldvike
To: kassie
"Seems as though we have terrorists right here." That needed repeating as I imagine you considered that these particular terrorists were not even non-citizens of America.
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posted on
01/25/2002 9:58:15 AM PST
by
ImpBill
To: Sir Gawain
"There's no rhyme or reason for it," said Lt. David Martin, head of the Richmond police homicide squad. Oh, yes there is
hate.
To: putupon
This makes me sick. I hope they catch all three bastards and kill them. The world will be a better place for it.
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posted on
01/25/2002 10:17:39 AM PST
by
paul51
To: Victoria Delsoul
Oh, yes there is
hate. It's still unimaginable to me, though -- well, the shooting part I can imagine.
But for young men to just pull out a gun and shoot any woman, not to mention a young one, is something that goes beyond hate.
They're animals, and deserve to be put down as such.
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posted on
01/25/2002 10:29:10 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: putupon
I've got a brother-in-law who thinks I'm paranoid 'cause I carry a gun.
"I can't believe a man like you is so afraid" he says.
Not afraid - realistic. There are bad people out there, Toto, who want to hurt us.
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posted on
01/25/2002 10:39:15 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
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Comment #44 Removed by Moderator
To: Sir Gawain; Fred Mertz; RaceBannon; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian...
Mt 24:7 For nation [ethnos]
shall rise against nation [ethnos]
, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.The Lord prophesied above the communist/globalist/U.N. technique of intentionally riling up one ethnic group against another. Sometimes they are indigenous, sometimes not, but generally they are the have-not's who are hyped to attack those who have. Consider Rwanda, Zimbabwe, S.A., Fiji and many other places. This has been going on for generations and is typical marxist policy. Because of the ease of travel, offenders don't have to be in their neighborhood. They can be individuals going through downtown office buildings, opening every door to see what they can steal, or in gangs intimidating lone individuals, just trying to get a piece of the American dream.
Click here ====> Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record <====== for a list of Communist Goals (1963). Post #51 said on 12/09/2000 that all but 3 of the 45 items on the Communist agenda were "DONE!" then. On the list are those plans to destroy and pervert the culture. It worked!
It has all been working according to plan, everything from Hollywood back in the 30's and 40's teaching that diamonds and sexuality are a girl's best friend while the globalist rich guys hyped the price of diamonds and hawked them to the poor sheep, to John Wayne bravado puffing one's macho Pride which shall be the nation's downfall. So the nation ends up drunken on stuff and sin and lives to entertain itself to death, having no time for its own babies which it murders before they have seen the light of day. So much for the whore of Babylon who continues to party-on.
See also here: The "Age of Aquarius" and The "New World Order" and here: 31

2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
You only get to be disciples, to know the truth and be made free if you continue. America, you didn't continue...you fell for the lie, you broke the everlasting covenant because you didn't do your part.
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posted on
01/25/2002 11:14:21 AM PST
by
2sheep
To: Billy_bob_bob
"I will leave it to you all to figure out what criteria I use to define a dangerous area. You may call me names, but you will never call me a victim." I believe it was Chris Rock, a black comedian, who said (my paraphrase), "If you are in any city and find yourself on MLK Blvd., FLEE FOR YOUR LIFE!"
To: putupon
I thought the NRA's Operation Exhile was supposed to stop illegal guns?
To: Navy Patriot
If the perp is WHITE however,... it's mentioned in the headline.
To: Alarm Clock
It might not even have been the reporter, sometimes the editors cut things like that out. They're the real ones who deserve the blame, because they had the option to add the race of the suspects back into the article.
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posted on
01/25/2002 11:49:56 AM PST
by
xm177e2
To: Trueblackman
It takes a lot of guts to stand up to the official party line, although personally I don't think the race-baiters represent the majority black opinion. When I lived in Norfolk, and rode the TRT through Norfolk, Porthsmouth, and Virginia Beach every day, I was usually the only white person on the bus. I was never treated with anything but courtesy.
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