Apparently, you missed the rise and fall of your dream regime.
Posted on 01/29/2002 5:13:49 AM PST by simicyber
Traditional Values Coalition Opinion Editorial For publication on or after Facing The Truth About Homosexual Behavior By Rev. Louis P. Sheldon
Tuesday, January 29, 2002
Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition
Washington, DC – In 1987, a homosexual magazine called Guide published an article that laid out a detailed marketing plan for selling the normalization of homosexuality through the mass media. The article, "The Overhauling of Straight America,"* was eventually expanded into a full-length book called After the Ball: How America will conquer its fear & loathing of Gays in the 90’s.
Authors Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill, writing in the Guide article, note the following: "In the early stages of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent—only later his unsightly derriere!" The objective has been to portray homosexuality as a fixed, unchangeable sexual identity—one that is determined at birth. This is untrue, but the propaganda campaign has largely succeeded.
The plan was—and still is—to present the controversy surrounding homosexuality as a civil rights issue—not about dangerous and unnatural homosexual behaviors. In addition, this marketing campaign includes an effort to portray homosexuals as victims of an intolerant society who need special legal protections. Kirk and Pill note: "In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector." Kirk and Pill also recommend smearing their enemies, comparing them to the KKK and Nazis. They write: "To be blunt, they must be vilified….we intend to make the antigays look so nasty that average Americans will want to dissociate themselves from such types."
This marketing plan—designed to hide the facts about homosexual behavior, to portray homosexuals as victims, and to vilify their enemies—has been wildly successful. A compliant mainstream media has helped homosexuals accomplish many of these goals. One major newspaper syndicate, for example, has given homosexual activist Deb Price a weekly column to promote Kirk and Pill’s propaganda campaign.
Fortunately, there are still voices of sanity who are speaking out against the effort to portray homosexual behavior as normal and determined by birth. One such individual is Dr. A. Dean Byrd, vice president of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH). Dr. Byrd authored "The Innate-Immutable Argument Finds No Basis In Science." In it, he quotes a number of homosexual researchers and activists who admit that they can find no genetic basis for homosexual behavior.
One of those is Dean Hamer who tried to find a genetic cause for homosexuality by examining the DNA code at the end of the X chromosome. According to Hamer: "There is not a single master gene that makes people gay . . . . I don’t think we will be able to predict who will be gay."
The words of homosexual activist Camille Paglia are equally telling: "Homosexuality is not ‘normal.’ On the contrary, it is a challenge to the norm . . . Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction . . . No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous . . . homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait."
Dr. Byrd’s article is must reading for anyone who wants to understand the true nature and origin of homosexual behaviors. It deserves to be widely distributed to educators, legislators, and to editors and reporters. It is available at: www.narth.com/docs/innate.html.
*To read "The Overhauling of Straight America," go to: Traditional Values Coalition is an interdenominational public policy organization representing more than 43,000 churches across the United States. For more information, contact Sharone Carmona at 202-547-8570. TVC's Web site is:
I think this obsession with controlling the private sexuality of consenting adults in their own bedrooms, is pathological.
Then perhaps you should spend your efforts protesting against the inherently socialistic institution of public schools, rather than homosexuals.
I could not agree more. So why don't grown human beings who like to get their orgasms with the same sex....however that works for um....keep it to themselves, and IN THE BEDROOMS and out of our faces? I mean, what could be MORE pathological that wanting to be identified by what particular avenue you like to get your sexual gratification? It is NO ONES business. Yet homosexuals seem to think it is their primary identifying feature. They bring their sexual proclivities OUT of the BEDROOM and into our faces! Pathological? YOU BET!
I'll go you one better.
I propose that all public schools be ELIMINATED, and that the money be returned to parents, so that they can purchase the education they want on the free market.
Arrest and prosecute homosexuals the same as we do for people who have sex with animals or children. There is no difference as they are all deviants who deserve jail time. If they are in the privacy of their own bedrooms and between consenting adults then I would ask “Why then, do we know about their activities?” The answer is simple; “Its because it is not private” They seem to want everyone to know about it.
I'm sure many of them do keep their sexual lives private and quiet.
But there is certainly a loud and radical minority that don't. They tend to be a bit "in your face" about it, and that bothers a lot of people (including me). But then again, I'm heterosexual, so I don't have people threatening to throw me in prison for my sexual activity. I find the radical people who call for state to criminalize homosexuality, to be every bit as obnoxious as radical homosexuals are.
But to get to the point, the only tools homosexuals have at their disposal to be "in your face" by force, are public schools, anti-discrimination laws, affirmative action laws, and government socialist redistribution programs. Get rid of these things, return this republic to a nation which respects the rights of individuals to choose their own associations (and likewise reject them), and homosexual activists would lose their lever.
Government is the problem here.... not the solution.
Just a week ago, you were calling for all homosexuals to be imprisoned by the state.
At least be consistent.
I haven't really heard many people argue that homosexuality has a genetic component to it, after all, if that were the case, it probably would have bred itself out of existence. I _have_ read that there may be a physiological basis for it, and there has been some evidence of that. Personally, I think there are people who are born "tweeners", who could probably go either way, and who then decide or are influenced later.
I dont mind homosexuals really, I just dont like the left-wing politics that tends to come with the group.
I think we agree, OWK. I also think we agree that public promotion of any sexuality under the guise of tolerance, diversity, and education is equally 'SHAMful' and does not give equal time to an 'alternative morality' viewed(if though not always practiced) as the so-called 'Christian' lifestyle.--(substitute 'alternative' for 'Christian' and it becomes 'politically correct'.
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"The words of homosexual activist Camille Paglia are equally telling: "Homosexuality is not ‘normal.’ On the contrary, it is a challenge to the norm . . . Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction . . . No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous . . . homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait.""
While the ... indicates there may be some 'context' issues with Sheldon's piece, I, personally, think that the so-called 'rise in gayness' is due to single parent families and 'homosexual' activists. Without mutual defenses of mother and father, tendencies lean toward the biases of the available parent or an outsider waiting to prey.
And you as a consumer of television programming, have the right to turn off the television, refuse to purchase products from the sponsors of such programming, start a competitive network, protest, and otherwise oppose this kind of programming.
What you do NOT have the right to do, is enlist the help of government guns to prohibit it.
I'm totally opposed to this nonsense that often comes from the Gay rights movement of trying to push homosex on the rest of the country, especially through school sex ed programs. Not only is it ridiculous and impossible, but it gives people like Rev. Sheldon an arsenal of armor piercing rounds to shoot back with. Having said that, I simply can't understand, for the life of me, why so many conservative Christians focus so passionately on homosexuality as the chief cultural threat to defeat. Promiscuous heterosexuality is, by far, the greatest threat to marriage and the family, not gayety.
So far, this is the most intelligent post toaday!
Me too, but my suggested answer to that problem, is the elimination of the socialist construct known as "public schools".... not government control of homosexuals.
Well, I contend that queers are so bitter that they have been inflicted with a disease that is caused by their lifestyle, that they would like every segement of society exposed to it so it won't be called a "gay disease". Just MHO.
Oh, absolutely. And, yes, people should be able to ride any way they like without fear of imprisonment.
It seems to me that same-sex attraction, like other biological characteristics, probably forms a bell-curve. The 2 1/2 to 5 % of the population at one end of the curve are obligate heterosexuals, the 2 1/2 to 5 % at the other end obligate homosexuals. The remaining 90-95% are in the middle. However, behavior and conditioning are strongly skewed toward heterosexuality by other factors, including cultural pressures, desire to procreate, etc., et al.
There are other causes of homosexuality as well.
Negative conditioning, for example: A victim of heterosexual childhood abuse, for one example, may find it impossible to relate sexually and emotionally to members of the opposite sex in a healthy way, and may be driven to homosexuality.
Isolation from normal heterosexual access is another--prisons, for example.
Evidently, cultural structuring and conditioning can be a cause. We see this in the reports from Afghanistan and other Islamic countries, and this probably also played a role in ancient Greece.
I believe homosexuals when they say that they have always been this way and cannot change.
This is by no means an endorsement of homosexuality or any homosexual agenda! I particularly do not advocate the public flaunting of homosexuality, and I think that whether or not homosexuals should serve in the military is a decision that should be made by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to what is best for the defense of the country, in their judgment, and that their decision should be final.
My primary caveat is that there should be absolutely NO tolerance of homosexual pedophilia (which I would define as any homosexual overtures (or more) by anyone 18 or over with anyone under 18) - it should be a capital crime and zealously prosecuted. Homosexual pedophilia should not be equated with heterosexual 'statutory rape' situations involving girls or boys in their teens, assuming physical maturity - there's nothing deviant about it. (I'm not talking about the more traditional heterosexual pedophila of adult men and prepubescent females - that's also intolerable).
There are a number of distinctions that should be drawn, but rarely are:
There is behavior that is criminal;
behavior that is not criminal, but not socially acceptable or even tolerable;
behavior that is tolerable, but not socially acceptable; behavior that is socially acceptable but not admirable;
behavior that is acceptable or admirable that is required;
there is behavior that is admirable, but not required; and
behavior that is especially admirable, but goes so far beyond what is expected that it is heroic (superogatory acts).
Notice that the law can only sanction criminal acts, those which are prohibited. What has happened in the past decade of Clintonism is that people are seriously arguing that any behavior that is not illegal is acceptable. This is arrant nonsense. There are many areas where the use of the power of the state is inappropriate, but private, voluntary social sanctions (e.g. refusing to trade, snubbing, etc.) are appropriate.
Provided it does not lead to any diseases that can be transmitted to nonconsenting persons, and whose treatment has to be be financed by taxpayers.
You can choose your actions. You're not free to choose the consequences.
Archbishop Fulton Sheen was once asked, "What is the secret to becoming a popular preacher?"
"Easy. Preach about the sins they don't commit."
OWK: "THEY'RE STATISTS! BURN THEM!!!"
In the existing system we have, the govt. should not be promoting deviant reckless behavior and their philosophy, religion--life style!
...no matter what the people of your community think! The Libertine Fascist Front has spoken!
There should be no tolerance of ANY pedophilia, heterosexual, or homosexual.
Children are not capable of understanding the implications and consequences of consenting to sexuality, and therefore cannot express consent. Hence anyone engaging a child in sexual activity is doing so in the absence of consent (even if operating under the pretense of consent).
In my opinion, pedophiles should suffer profoundly harsh punishment.
(and for the record, I made it very clear in my previous posts that I was discussing consenting adults)
Good to speak with you my friend.
I see that Ellen's show is being cancelled (again). Seems that a lot of Americans just aren't interested in having a camel in the tent.....
Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent—only later his unsightly derriere!
All these problems are limited to or caused by homosexuals?
...no matter what the people of your community think! The Libertine Fascist Front has spoken!
The "people of your community" pay for their public schools, by taking money from unwilling participants at gunpoint. Perhaps this fact had escaped that bowl of grey mush you call a brain.
That may be true in some cases, but Yahoo ran an article last year reporting a study that showed a 15-fold increase in homosexual sex among women over the last decade. This is clearly a culturally influenced change in behavior, caused primarily by the explosion of pornography, in all likelyhood (more women are obviously going "bi" - BOING!!!). Now, there are homosexuals who seem to be that way by nature, but alot of it is cultural.
Quite simply, if it were private then how would any of us know about it? The fact is that it is no longer private. Being private doesn't serve the agenda. They are attempting to use the government to make homosexuality the legal equivalent of heterosexuality so as to force us to acknowledge some nonexistant moral equivalency between the two. They'll never do that, of course, but they will be able to use the force of government to further marginalize and isolate people of faith.
Imprisoning people for private acts in their own house is a clear violation of rights.
But if the destruction of the family, the church and society concerns you,
These are all worthy institutions. Its up to individuals who cherish these to preserve them(not the government) - that includes a majority of Americans.
if the premature death of men and women concerns you,
People who die becasue of their choice of lifestyle is sad, but really none of my concern.
if rampant disease (including more hepatitis than they have assigned letters to) concerns you,
This is disease caaused by a lifestyle. Don't engage in that behavior, and it will be of no concern.
if the molestation of young children and the deliberate sexual perversion of the young concerns you then homosexuality will concern you.
Molestation is a crime, whetehr its done by a queer or a straight person. Given that 95% or more of the population is not queer, an overwhelming NUMBER of molestations are done by straights. Don't confuse crimes with private activities.
Treatment of diseases by taxpayers (socialized medicine) is inherently wrong in itself, and should not be used as an excuse to commit another wrong (government control of the private sex lives of consenting adults).
And intentional transmission of disease (or transmission of disease by silent but knowing sexuality) should be criminally accountable (whether homosexuals or heterosexuals are the perpetrators).
So you are suggesting what?
That the private sexuality of consenting adults should be subject to government regulation, permission, and criminalization?
That's what it sounds like you're saying.
Are you seriously suggesting that all homosexuals are promiscuous, devil-worshipping, disease-infested, child-molesters?
Think.
If it was private, how is it that they can be prosecuted in the first place? Every criminal sodomy case that I've seen referenced on this board since I've been here has not resulted from a private act. Since you can't be referring to anything going on in the present, were you referring to something that someone else suggested?
Don't forget that the gay community can not reproduce therefore they must recruit, and they target the young, while they're still impressionable.
Rampant homosexuality has been at the core of almost every society that has collapsed from within.
It doesn't matter from a Christian or Darwinism point of view, either way it is a lose, lose situation. From a Christian point of view, we must remember that God love's the sinner, but hate's the sin
Apparently, you missed the rise and fall of your dream regime.
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