Facing The Truth About Homosexual Behavior

Traditional Values Coalition ^ | January 29, 2002 | Rev. Louis P. Sheldon

[OWK]

Homosexuality (abnormal though it may be), does not violate the rights of anyone, provided it is practiced privately among consenting adults.

I think this obsession with controlling the private sexuality of consenting adults in their own bedrooms, is pathological.

[Crowcreek]

I don't see anything sexual about mutual masturbation . . .

[rebelyell]

Then you are an idiot.

[ChicagoGuy]

Then don't do it.

[Xenalyte]

Camille Paglia is one of the few academics I admire. She's insightful, smart as anything, and rather sharp with the wit (kinda like Molly Ivins thinks she is). Better yet, she refuses to recognize liberals' dogma as valid, and she calls 'em on it. And you just gotta like that.

Besides, she's a hilarious read, especially if you have a liberal-arts background. Makes you think, too.

[ChuckHam]

I agree with you totally. But I also believe something else needs to be said as well. The pathological need of homosexuals to attempt to normalize their deviant behavior needs to be stopped. I propose that all so called sex education in schools be eliminated. It's not the goverment would should be talking to my kids about something like that. It's especially not acceptable for the government to attempt to convince my children that deviant/dangerous/unhealthy sex is ok.

[artw]

I will stop speaking out against it once the schools stop teaching it to our kids.

[OWK]

I will stop speaking out against it once the schools stop teaching it to our kids.

Then perhaps you should spend your efforts protesting against the inherently socialistic institution of public schools, rather than homosexuals.

[BikerNYC]

"...homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait."

An adaptation to what?

[Republic]

I think this obsession with controlling the private sexuality of consenting adults in their own bedrooms, is pathological

I could not agree more. So why don't grown human beings who like to get their orgasms with the same sex....however that works for um....keep it to themselves, and IN THE BEDROOMS and out of our faces? I mean, what could be MORE pathological that wanting to be identified by what particular avenue you like to get your sexual gratification? It is NO ONES business. Yet homosexuals seem to think it is their primary identifying feature. They bring their sexual proclivities OUT of the BEDROOM and into our faces! Pathological? YOU BET!

[OWK]

I propose that all so called sex education in schools be eliminated.

I'll go you one better.

I propose that all public schools be ELIMINATED, and that the money be returned to parents, so that they can purchase the education they want on the free market.

[Registered]

Here! Here! OWK for President! (at least on education)

[Khepera]

Nobody cares what sodomites do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. The trouble only occurs when it becomes public knowledge. To keep it private and not public I would recommend enforcing the sodomy laws and prosecuting individuals who let their private lives become public. The sodomite community does not want that because they want to solicit deviant sex in public. In bars, in bathrooms, in parks, wherever they may be. They also want to solicit sex from our children as the push for lower ages of consent. They want to remove the stigma of sodomite sexual practices and have endorsement from government so that when our children resist they can say “but hey look the government says it is ok.” The sodomite lifestyle is not normal or healthy for society as a whole and should not be endorsed.

Arrest and prosecute homosexuals the same as we do for people who have sex with animals or children. There is no difference as they are all deviants who deserve jail time. If they are in the privacy of their own bedrooms and between consenting adults then I would ask “Why then, do we know about their activities?” The answer is simple; “Its because it is not private” They seem to want everyone to know about it.

[OWK]

So why don't grown human beings who like to get their orgasms with the same sex....however that works for um....keep it to themselves, and IN THE BEDROOMS and out of our faces?

I'm sure many of them do keep their sexual lives private and quiet.

But there is certainly a loud and radical minority that don't. They tend to be a bit "in your face" about it, and that bothers a lot of people (including me). But then again, I'm heterosexual, so I don't have people threatening to throw me in prison for my sexual activity. I find the radical people who call for state to criminalize homosexuality, to be every bit as obnoxious as radical homosexuals are.

But to get to the point, the only tools homosexuals have at their disposal to be "in your face" by force, are public schools, anti-discrimination laws, affirmative action laws, and government socialist redistribution programs. Get rid of these things, return this republic to a nation which respects the rights of individuals to choose their own associations (and likewise reject them), and homosexual activists would lose their lever.

Government is the problem here.... not the solution.

[OWK]

Nobody cares what sodomites do in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

Just a week ago, you were calling for all homosexuals to be imprisoned by the state.

At least be consistent.

[Paradox]

One of those is Dean Hamer who tried to find a genetic cause for homosexuality by examining the DNA code at the end of the X chromosome. According to Hamer: "There is not a single master gene that makes people gay . . . . I don’t think we will be able to predict who will be gay."

I haven't really heard many people argue that homosexuality has a genetic component to it, after all, if that were the case, it probably would have bred itself out of existence. I _have_ read that there may be a physiological basis for it, and there has been some evidence of that. Personally, I think there are people who are born "tweeners", who could probably go either way, and who then decide or are influenced later.

I dont mind homosexuals really, I just dont like the left-wing politics that tends to come with the group.

[d14truth]

"I think this obsession with controlling the private sexuality of consenting adults in their own bedrooms, is pathological."

I think we agree, OWK. I also think we agree that public promotion of any sexuality under the guise of tolerance, diversity, and education is equally 'SHAMful' and does not give equal time to an 'alternative morality' viewed(if though not always practiced) as the so-called 'Christian' lifestyle.--(substitute 'alternative' for 'Christian' and it becomes 'politically correct'.

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"The words of homosexual activist Camille Paglia are equally telling: "Homosexuality is not ‘normal.’ On the contrary, it is a challenge to the norm . . . Nature exists whether academics like it or not. And in nature, procreation is the single relentless rule. That is the norm. Our sexual bodies were designed for reproduction . . . No one is born gay. The idea is ridiculous . . . homosexuality is an adaptation, not an inborn trait.""

While the ... indicates there may be some 'context' issues with Sheldon's piece, I, personally, think that the so-called 'rise in gayness' is due to single parent families and 'homosexual' activists. Without mutual defenses of mother and father, tendencies lean toward the biases of the available parent or an outsider waiting to prey.

[irish guard]

You statement is true with one exception. The homosexual community has forced its agenda (and it is diverse and broad) on all Americans. We see nearly every TV show sporting some kind of gay character. Just as unwanted advances among heterosexual people are discomforting...in fact we have laws in the workplace governing this, we see this agenda being advanced by the major media outlets. It is or can be equated to the unwanted advances crowd, which I find a reasonable reaction. Not everyone in the country is gay or wants to be. Not everyone wants to ehar about it on every tv show or in every movie. It gets a bit tiresome after a while. While practiced in the bedroom among consenting adults is one thing...head on out to San Francisco, South Beach, Fl or other high homosexual dense areas and your comment does not hold water.

[goodnesswins]

I'm with you Chuck......what people do in "their" bedrooms is one thing....but when they bring "their" bedrooms to school as "rights" it's over......SEPARATION OF SEX AND STATE has been my mantra......AND, what I can't figure out is that with the high incidence of AIDS in the homosexual community why people would want to push that on ANYONE!!!!