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You claim to be big on "facts." There is one simple fact that would put this to rest---the one the conspiracy kooks do not want to confront: there are hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of public, private, and government radar stations operating and dozens of them would have picked up something on their screens that day. Why is it that NOT ONE, NOWHERE, has a single radar image of a missile (by the way, you need TWO missiles, not one, for the thesis of this article to work. If you don't understand that, let me know and I'll 'splain it to you).

Sanders ("Downing of TWA 800") claims there was one such tape, but the FAA got it and either destroyed or altered it. Sorry, but what about the dozens of others? It is a ridiculous claim without that evidence. All the so-called "eyewitnesses"---the same people who had O.J. at different places in Los Angeles at different times---are thoroughly unreliable.

Moreover, if you look at the claims by the SCIENTISTS (such as Ian Goddard, who claims that the "holes" in the aft fuselage are evidence of an outside explosion above 800) and compare them with the claims of Sanders (who says that the "Standard, pass-through missile" cut TWA 800 in half in front of the center wing tank), you have two completely different scenarios. EITHER OF THEM requires TWO MISSILES ON A RADAR SCREEN (a drone and a hunter). But if BOTH these guys are right, now we need THREE missiles (a drone, an outside exploder, and a "pass through").

So stick to this fact: without a radar tape, you got zip, zero, nada. I will certainly be willing to change my view if you or anyone else provides radar evidence. (I likely would be convinced also if you could find some navy officers/sailors who actually FIRED the weapon, rather than a guy 80 miles away!!!! who says he saw something. That ain't evidence, and it sure isn't a "fact."

You claim to be big on "facts."

The only facts I'm arguing are those in the Ron Brown crash. I introduced the topic to this thread as a counter argument to those who claim that it isn't conceivable that the government and military could be involved in a large coverup. IF, just ONCE, those debunking TWA800 would HONESTLY debate the facts in the Ron Brown evidence, or admit they know nothing about that case, THEN, their impartiality in the TWA800 case might be believable.