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Why Is Libertarianism Wrong?
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Posted on 02/01/2002 10:21:47 AM PST by Exnihilo

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To: Exnihilo
"hahaha..get real.."

As a knuckle-dragger to a thumb-sucker, let me say this:

I checked your posts on other threads, and you are just what I supposed, a disruptor.

Didn't see a single substantive item; just smears of Libertarians.

I'll say this for you, you smoked yourself out! LOL!

241 posted on 02/01/2002 12:21:52 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Xenalyte
got any kin in Texas?

Closest to that is Kansas, and they moved there just a few years ago. I'm probably not your long lost fourth cousin three times removed, or whatever.

"If you throw your beer cans out the window of your pick-up truck, and your wife shoots them ... you might be a redneck." -Jeff Foxworthy

AB

242 posted on 02/01/2002 12:22:55 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Exnihilo
I posted this, never imagining that there was an imaginary rule that anything one posts must be defended in full.

C'mon.... at least be honest with yourself.

You posted this, never imagining that there was an imaginary rule that you were obligated to read anything other than the title.

And when you realized your mistake, you started the current line of song and dance.

243 posted on 02/01/2002 12:23:15 PM PST by OWK
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To: Aquinasfan
The central problem with libertarianism is that God doesn't give anyone the "right" to do anything intrinsically evil.

No, but He sure has provided the opportunity.

I believe that's known as "freedom", something that was granted to Adam and Eve in the Garden, if you'll recall. God provided them the opportunity in the form of access to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Not only that, He actually permitted temptation to be provided in the form of a certain being who was cast out of Heaven. Talk about your Grand Conspiracy Theories: God actually "permitted" the fall of Adam. But then again, maybe the problem was simply that God is so weak that He is incapable of keeping fallen angels from invading certain locations, and incapable of creating beings that are not subject to temptation.

Freedom has a cost. That cost was the reason why a Redeemer was sent to Earth. God apparently feels that the principle of freedom was worth the price of sacrificing a Redeemer.

244 posted on 02/01/2002 12:25:13 PM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: Exnihilo
I've been sitting here laughing for the past thirty minutes watching you guys get your panties in a bunch.

Joe Isuzu telecaption translation:

"I've been crapping my pants trying to distance myself from this article I was too lazy to read".

245 posted on 02/01/2002 12:27:36 PM PST by OWK
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To: MadameAxe; Noumenon
I must really take exception to this sweeping generalization. I am honored when I am called a Jesus Freak by my atheist relatives, yet politically and fiscally, I am a libertarian.

The only difference I have with the Libertarian Party platform is in the area of Abortion. One of government's legitimate powers is protection of its citizens lives, and a preborn person is still a person.

One of the most passionate advocates on this threads in defending Libertarianism is a hard core Christian , and coincidentally, a hard core atheist and libertarian posting on this thread is also a hard core "Right to Life" advocate (from what I've seen on this forum before).

Please select a narrower brush before you start painting.

246 posted on 02/01/2002 12:29:12 PM PST by L,TOWM
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To: CubicleGuy
Beautifully put. My cube got brighter reading that, CG.
247 posted on 02/01/2002 12:32:03 PM PST by L,TOWM
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To: Exnihilo; yall
Your paranoia for libertarians finally shows thru.

This silly article was first posted, here:

Why is libertarianism wrong? {Libertarians}
[Free Republic]

Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a397a291e4f3b.htm
Changed:5:29 PM on Thursday, July 27, 2000

248 posted on 02/01/2002 12:33:07 PM PST by tpaine
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To: NittanyLion
Are there any libertarians in Congress?
249 posted on 02/01/2002 12:35:42 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: L,TOWM
Knowing both of the posters to whom you addressed your comments, I would state with confidence that the characterization "god-shouting-fanatic", is not one which they would apply to you, or to any rational theistic human being.
250 posted on 02/01/2002 12:36:06 PM PST by OWK
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To: Ben Ficklin
Are there any libertarians in Congress?

Ron Paul is as close as they come, I suppose. I'm registered Republican, myself. But I wouldn't say too many Republicans legislate like little-l libertarians.

251 posted on 02/01/2002 12:38:48 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Ben Ficklin
Are there any libertarians in Congress?

Sadly, the overwhelming majority of congress is socialist, varying only in the degree to which they embrace redistributionist and authoritarian policy.

The most notable exception being Congressman Ron Paul (who curiously enough was a libertarian candidate for president of the United States)

252 posted on 02/01/2002 12:39:03 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
The libertarians need to get someone in Congress. What are the prospects?
254 posted on 02/01/2002 12:41:17 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Well, there's Ron Paul..

Oh, whoops.. He's a Republican.

255 posted on 02/01/2002 12:43:38 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Ben Ficklin
The libertarians need to get someone in Congress. What are the prospects?

Not very good I'm afraid.

The majority of Americans have decided that they value socialist redistribution programs more than liberty.

So they keep electing republicans and democrats.

256 posted on 02/01/2002 12:44:19 PM PST by OWK
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To: Ben Ficklin
The libertarians need to get someone in Congress. What are the prospects?

As a practical matter, not too many Americans are interested in voting for someone who preaches restraint. They'd sooner feed at the government trough.

257 posted on 02/01/2002 12:45:38 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jhoffa_
Oh, whoops.. He's a Republican.

If all republicans were like Ron Paul, I'd vote republican every election.

But unfortunately, he's not only the exception, but he isn't even very well-tolerated by rank and file republicans (who are socialists at heart).

258 posted on 02/01/2002 12:46:16 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
It amazes me how all the people could be soooo dumb to elect these commies when they could be electing mental masturbating libertarians.
260 posted on 02/01/2002 12:47:45 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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