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Why Is Libertarianism Wrong? ^

Posted on 02/01/2002 10:21:47 AM PST by Exnihilo

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To: Exnihilo
"Steve is the only person who's attempted to do so, and he did a good job in my opinion."
So I take it that you are ready to admit that you are wrong about Libertarians? Since Steve refuted arguments with which you said you agreed?
441 posted on 02/06/2002 9:41:26 AM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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Actually you might read the story of the conversion of the Aleuts to Orthodox Christianity. Most of them attribute their conversion to St. Herman of Alaska, who lived as a hermit. You might also read about St. John of Kronstadt who took the Gospel to the squalid naval base town of Kronstadt which was replete with all the worst things one associates with undisciplined sailors.

There are plenty of living examples of the Holy Orthodox Church continuing in this tradition: the only orphanage in Guatemala is run by Orthodox nuns (who keep the strict Orthodox monastic rule); we are looking forward here in Kansas to a promised visit by a Fr. Daniel (whose last name is a long, to me unpronouceable Indonesian name) who is bringing the Gospel to Indonesia, and is under death sentence by for converting from Islam.

Again I invite you to look into the Church, rather than projecting Western misconceptions--your remark about monasticism shows how little you know of its Eastern version.

442 posted on 02/06/2002 12:03:57 PM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: The_Reader_David
Fair enough.
443 posted on 02/06/2002 12:18:22 PM PST by L,TOWM
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To: Tall_Texan
Face it, you're a 1% party and, if you weren't advocating drugs for everyone, you wouldn't be 1/3rd of that.

Just more vile slander from a Statist!

Libertarians don't advocate drugs for anyone.

We also don't advocate socialist laws that
turn individuals into criminals simply to make
them slaves of the state.  The harm of drug
use if left to police itself is self punishing.
That's the way it should be.

I don't need my income taken against my
wishes just to create an elite class of black
uniformed soldier police that break down
doors in the dark of night to carry people
away from their families.  That was the
tactics of the Nazis and Soviets.  I don't
need laws that allow a jealous or vengeful
person to bear false witness against his
neighbor and cause his property to be stolen
by zealous government thugs

As for the military service, I was a volunteer
during the Vietnam Era and I even had a
high draft number.  I didn't go to war but
I didn't and wouldn't shirk my duty either.
I held a top-secret clearance, made my rank
in minimum time and finished my enlistment
with no blemish on my record at all.

I am not sitting here crying about anything
but your ignorance.

I believe in self control and living up to my
responsibilities.  I believe that everyone
else should live up to their responsibilities
also.  We could never drink an ocean dry
but if we tried it would have unintended
consequences that few would want to
experience.   Our society today  is so filled
with unintended consequences that I left
the know nothing Republican Party and
found a Party that at least makes an attempt
to stop Socialism.

I forgot to say that I once was one of those
Republicans that kept sending Speaker Newt
Gingrich back to Washington over and over.
I wanted to believe I was doing some good
but instead I found out that the 104th Congress
did the most up to that point to take away
our American freedom.  A sane person grows
tired of lip service.

444 posted on 02/06/2002 5:41:09 PM PST by higgmeister
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To: higgmeister
I know you've seen it a hundred times but here goes another one.

Land-Mine Legislation

445 posted on 02/06/2002 6:05:59 PM PST by higgmeister
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