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11-year-old shoots, kills assailant threatening his grandmother
South Bend Tribune ^ | 2/6/02 | GWEN O’BRIEN

Posted on 2/6/2002, 12:47:17 PM by CFW

SOUTH BEND — When Tony D. Murry held a box cutter to Sue Gay’s neck Monday night, Gay’s 11-year-old adopted son ran upstairs at the home at 1348 N. Huey St. and grabbed a gun.

“He hit the bottom of the stairs with the .45 and stood ready stance with the gun,” said Gay with feet spread apart and her hands outstretched as if holding a handgun.

The boy shot one round and hit Murry, 27, in the chest, even though the man was shielding himself with Gay.

“I don’t know how he did that. One shot and he got him. He’s my little hero,” Gay said of the grandson she adopted.

The fifth-grader may not have been just a lucky shot. This is a family that knows guns.

“Before his dad died, they’d go target shooting. He knows they’re not toys and not something to mess with,” Gay said.

Ironically, it was guns that Murry may have come for in the first place.

“Murry demanded all the weapons in the house. Gay’s late husband was a weapons collector and Murry knew of the collection,” said St. Joseph County Prosecutor Chris Toth, who said this was a case of justifiable homicide.

Gay said her daughter, who is the boy’s biological mother and currently in prison, was acquainted with Murry. Murry, or “Casper” as Gay knew him, would come by every couple of months to ask about Gay’s daughter. The two never dated, according to Gay.

“I’m not sure where they met. Probably in South Bend when she was off on one of her drug binges,” Gay said.

In an arrest in November, Murry listed “drug dealer” as his occupation, according to booking records at the St. Joseph County Jail.

“I’m upset because she put us in this position. She didn’t send him (Murry) over here, but he was one of her acquaintances. I’m more mad at him though,” Gay said.

Murry had been inside Gay’s house before Monday night and she trusted him. But this visit was different.

“I know he was drunk. At first he wanted me to buy him booze. Then he wanted me to drive him home. I don’t leave my house after dark,” Gay said.

Gay said Murry had been at the house for about a half an hour. She said she asked him to leave at 8 p.m. because she needed to go to bed. She normally leaves for work at 3 a.m.

“He got irritated and asked for a drink of water. When I was in the kitchen he held the razor knife (box cutter) to my son’s throat and said ‘This is not anything personal,’ ” Gay said.

Then Murry rushed up behind Gay and held the box cutter to her throat, she said.

“He told me, ‘Take me to where the guns are.’ He pushed me through the kitchen and into the front room,” Gay said.

Gay stopped at the love seat, put her left foot on it and pushed back on Murry, she said.

“I pushed up so he couldn’t push me forward any more, and I tried to push his hands down off my neck but he had a tight grip. I called for my son to say ‘call 911,’ ” Gay said.

That’s when the boy appeared with the gun. Murry ducked his head behind Gay’s small frame. Some of his torso was left unshielded.

“I’m looking down the barrel of a gun that’s in an 11-year-old’s hands. I knew that if he pulled that trigger I was going to die,” Gay said.

But Gay was not hit. She said they didn’t immediately know Murry had been shot.

“Casper went for the front door, turned the handle and went out of the house. My son ran to me and set the gun down. I hurried up and locked the door and called 911,” Gay said.

South Bend police found Murry, of 2009 W. Linden Ave., outside the home. He died in the emergency room at Memorial Hospital.

“The young man reasonably believed his mother and himself to be in danger of dying. It was clear to us this was a justifiable homicide,” Toth said.

“He did what he had to do. That’s an unfortunate burden for an 11-year-old to have on him,” he said.

Murry had a criminal history. Between 1993 and 2001 he had several misdemeanor arrests.

Murry had a theft conviction from 1994 and a conviction for attempted theft in 1993, which was treated as a misdemeanor.

Murry had been convicted of unarmed robbery for which he received a four-year prison sentence in 1997.

At the time of his death, Murry was charged in two Class D felony auto theft cases pending in St. Joseph Superior Court. He was scheduled to appear in court Feb. 26 for a possible guilty plea.

Meantime, Gay said after 23 years at 1348 N. Huey St., she is putting the house up for sale and moving with her son out into the county, where her fiance lives.

Gay said the boy is doing well since the shooting.

“He’s proud of himself. He feels bad he took a human life. But he didn’t want to lose me. He lost his dad three years ago to a heart attack,” Gay said.


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Gun control at its best!
1 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:47:17 PM by CFW
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To: CFW
Nice shooting kid. Well done.
2 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:49:07 PM by mgc1122
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To: Bang_List
Bang
3 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:53:27 PM by Fiddlstix
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To: CFW
Title should be "Eleven Year Old Hero Saves Grandmothers Life"

If all kids were trained this well we would not have a crime problem today.

4 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:54:32 PM by antienvironmentalist
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To: TroutStalker
Should we send this story to the Kansas City Red Star Pravda? Think they'll print it?
5 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:54:33 PM by barker
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To: CFW
If only that nasty gun had been properly locked up none of this would have happened.

SARCASM OFF

6 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:55:37 PM by Agent Smith
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To: CFW
The perp gambled and lost. "I see your box cutter and raise you your life".
7 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:55:57 PM by AppyPappy
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To: CFW
Cool
8 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:56:18 PM by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: CFW
Ironically, it was guns that Murry may have come for in the first place.

Soon people will say, "If they hadn't had the guns, they wouldn't have been robbed for them. Evil, evil guns."

Yeah, and if people in general weren't known to possess money and jewelry, they wouldn't be robbed at gunpoint for them. Evil, evil money and jewelry. And if the Jews hadn't been Jews, Hitler and the rest wouldn't have killed them for it.

And the actual evildoer is portrayed as a poor, unwitting response to a stimulus completely outside his control.

Ironically, it was guns that Murry may have come for in the first place.

You can be sure Murray's death will advertise quite widely what happens to folks who try to take guns from this location: walked in with a boxcutter; was carried out with a hole in his chest.
9 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:56:36 PM by aruanan
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To: CFW
I like stories that have a happy ending. Good luck to both (grand)mother and son.
10 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:57:37 PM by syriacus
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To: CFW
I guess he got the gun he was looking for...bullet first. heheehe
11 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:57:56 PM by cactmh
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To: CFW
What a great kid!!!
12 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:58:05 PM by Alas
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To: CFW
Great article, but I'm disturbed to see this woman's home address listed, alerting other criminals as to "where the guns are."

(Of course, criminals may think twice about coming to the home with this 11-year-old's shooting skills!)

13 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:58:12 PM by The Energizer
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To: CFW
Good for him. Well done, kid.
14 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:58:25 PM by Cacophonous
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To: CFW
Gay said the boy is doing well since the shooting.

“He’s proud of himself. He feels bad he took a human life. But he didn’t want to lose me. He lost his dad three years ago to a heart attack,”

The boy should be proud of himself. I'm proud of him, plus I'm proud of his late father for teaching him that a weapon is a tool and how to use and wield such a tool when it is most needed. And proud of the father for instilling the courage and resolution in the boy to stand up to terror and confront that which threathens him and his loved ones.

Although I understand that he feels badly about the loss of life his actions caused, someone needs to remind the boy that his grandmother is alive now because of him. The other is dead that would take her away from him because of his judicious use of self-defense. And I wouldn't dream of equating the assualtor as a human.

15 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:59:20 PM by woofer
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If the bedwetters like the upChuck Schumer and the Brady hag had their way,Liberalism at it's finest - the essence of gun control is "the more helpless you are the safer you are" Sure makes sense to me
16 posted on 2/6/2002, 12:59:44 PM by from occupied ga
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To: CFW
Good news bump.

I don't expect this to get too much coverage. Doesn't fit the template.

17 posted on 2/6/2002, 1:00:31 PM by AAABEST
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To: from occupied ga
Sorry, it's "The more helpless YOU are, the safer WE are from you".
18 posted on 2/6/2002, 1:01:44 PM by Big Dan
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To: aruanan
Soon people will say, "If they hadn't had the guns, they wouldn't have been robbed for them. Evil, evil guns."

As you pointed out, people steal objects other than guns. With his record, Murry might just as well have threatened Gay with a boxcutter in order to steal her car.

At the time of his death, Murry was charged in two Class D felony auto theft cases pending in St. Joseph Superior Court. He was scheduled to appear in court Feb. 26 for a possible guilty plea.

19 posted on 2/6/2002, 1:03:31 PM by syriacus
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To: CFW
WHAT??? Nothing about bringing a box cutter to a gun fight?
20 posted on 2/6/2002, 1:03:40 PM by DSHambone
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