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Note his reference to "copyrighted cartoon." Sorry Mr. Pride, I think the "fair use" exemption applies. Actions have consequences, and you soon may see them in calls to your advertisers.
1 posted on 02/08/2002 7:59:07 PM PST by calvin sun
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I think it was a fair mea culpa. It was sincere and thought out. Not snide or condecending. No harm no foul as far as I am concerned. Your reference to his point about the copyright misses the entire reason for the outrage and his subsequent and correct reaction.
2 posted on 02/08/2002 8:03:31 PM PST by VA Advogado
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When we decided to run the cartoon, I did not even consider this possibility...of it being seen by the world. We thought we could hide it and have our own little laugh, but those folks at Free Republic found this and made us pay.

Good job, folks!

3 posted on 02/08/2002 8:05:48 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: calvin sun; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; one_particular_harbour...
Weasel culpa!

(((ping))))


4 posted on 02/08/2002 8:06:00 PM PST by Sabertooth
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That was my thought pattern with Marland's Bush cartoon. I thought that rejecting the cartoon would be censorship.

No, censorship would be removing the cartoon from your web site as if it never ran.

5 posted on 02/08/2002 8:06:56 PM PST by shadowman99
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Excellent post! I hope our cumulative outrage had an effect on him. Apology accepted on my part, and he did point out that due to the internet, he doesn't edit his paper in a vacuum. Gotta give him some credit for a smidgen of intellect there. I'm glad there was a formal rejection of the 'toon. Thanks, FReepers...
7 posted on 02/08/2002 8:07:56 PM PST by cincinnati_Steve
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you stinkin liberals have taste for crap!...
8 posted on 02/08/2002 8:09:45 PM PST by arly
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Notice he didn't apologize to the victim's families.

I so hope that Rush talks about this Monday.

10 posted on 02/08/2002 8:10:35 PM PST by shadowman99
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Freepers can make a difference!
12 posted on 02/08/2002 8:10:44 PM PST by BlueAngel
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"...enough time had passed for the wounds of Sept. 11 to heal and for the terrorist attacks to take their place in the long history of political satire."

Not even close doofus.

13 posted on 02/08/2002 8:10:48 PM PST by terilyn
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How about that. Someone who actually knows how to apologize by saying he is sorry. The man admitted he made a mistake, and seemed to do it sincerely, unlike most public figures who claim they are apologizing but never actually say the word "sorry."
15 posted on 02/08/2002 8:14:52 PM PST by GnL
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"The decision to run Mike Marland's Friday editorial cartoon was mine alone, and it was a mistake."

Takes responsibility. Admits error.

Mike Pride must not be a liberal. Not an unsalvageable one, anyway.

16 posted on 02/08/2002 8:16:26 PM PST by okie01
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Another win in the Freeper column!
18 posted on 02/08/2002 8:18:44 PM PST by tje
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The decision to run Mike Marland's Friday editorial cartoon was mine alone, and it was a mistake.

Should have stopped here, offering all the excuses cheapens the sincerity...

Someone needs to send this guy the jpeg of the woman holding the infant out of the window of the burning tower...

I wonder if he will still try to convince himself that "the country has had time to pass through all the stages of grief,"

24 posted on 02/08/2002 8:28:20 PM PST by in the Arena
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We FReeped 'em good. We FReeped 'em real good!
28 posted on 02/08/2002 8:47:24 PM PST by clintonh8r
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A cartoonist needs to be able to do two things, to draw and to think.--Mike Pride

Since Mike Marland draws like a third-grader and "thinks" like a 70's acid-head, why does Pride keep using him?

An editor of a paper--even of a little flyspeck like the Concord Monitor--also needs some capacity to use the old noggin.

Mike Pride has failed miserably in the "thought pattern" department --both in publishing Marland's obscenity and then following it up with this terminally lame "apology."

29 posted on 02/08/2002 8:53:04 PM PST by henbane
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The attack on the trade towers was a singular, devastating event, but my own reaction to the cartoon was not visceral.

Mr. Pride is a sick, sick man if he doesn't have a gut reaction to seeing the WTC used in such a vile political attack. That is utterly disgusting!!!!!!!!

35 posted on 02/08/2002 9:04:42 PM PST by kayak
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A cartoonist needs to be able to do two things, to draw and to think.

Funny how 99.9999999% of political cartoonists think only like a demonrat.

39 posted on 02/08/2002 9:26:28 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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Oh brother. It was just a dumb liberal cartoon. People freak out and demand apologies waaaay too damned much nowadays.
43 posted on 02/08/2002 9:48:34 PM PST by Sandy
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Rather, I read it as I thought Marland had intended it: as strong criticism of the threat that Bush's budget poses to Social Security.

Pride should resign for this idiocy alone.

49 posted on 02/08/2002 10:10:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Here is the response to Mr. Pride's retraction:

Re: Why we shouldn't have run Mike Marland's cartoon

Mr. Pride,

I am somewhat gratified by your light retraction of Mike Marland's incredibly offensive editorial cartoon. However, your continued support of Mr. Marland and his mindset of using the incredible atrocity of September 11, 2001 to misrepresent President Bush's budgetary policy, in my opinion, nullifies any and all effort spent on your part. You might respect his talent as an artist but his judgement needs to be seriously questioned. He might even be a personal friend of yours, but the publication of the cartoon represents gross editorial malpractice on your part. It is as offensive as printing a caricature of Aunt Jemima eating fried chicken and watermelon with a welfare check stuffed in her back pocket to represent Black History Month.

You make several errors in your retraction.

Though Mr. Marland's cartoon might be copyrighted, it does not prevent fair use by private citizens in the course of public debate. As a seasoned editor, you should know better. That is basic Journalism Law 3001 at the Manship School of Journalism at Louisiana State University -- a fortunate experience of mine in college. I happened to be one of the individuals that reproduced the image under fair use on the World Wide Web for debate over its content and not commercial gain. Feel free to engage me in legal action over this. I would welcome the occasion to take this to court and further promote your editorial common sense to a national audience as the case would no doubt become. Reply to me and I will send over the relevant contact information so we can legally engage in your perceived copyright infringement. However, I feel you will want to sweep this major editorial error as quickly under the proverbial carpet as possible -- as I am sure your publisher and advertisers who financially supported this travesty would.

As an editor of a private publication, you have no ability to censor. Censorship can only occur by the actions of a governmental body. Your decisions as an editor are not a function of censorship but of the natural editorial process. Everyday of your career as an editor, you make decisions as to what should and should not appear within the pages of the Concord Monitor. That should be a function of your experience and common sense. If you wished to have excluded Mike Marland's repugnant editorial cartoon, he would still be free to publish it in other publications without fear of governmental intervention. You give yourself undue flattery over this statement and your ability to prevent Mr. Marland's constitutionally protected ability to express himself. We all have the right to speak but not to be heard.

You claim at some point in the future that the September 11th atrocity will be legitimate fuel for editorial cartoonists. Do you think the sunken grave of the U.S. Arizona is legitimate editorial fuel after 60 years? Would editorial common sense allow you to publish a Mike Marland editorial cartoon that desecrated the grave of the brave men that perished from the unprovoked assault of the Japanese on December 7, 1941? I doubt it nor do I think in the future the World Trade Center will be legitimate fodder for cantankerous editorial cartoonists. However, your editorial decision in publishing the Mike Marland cartoon has already crossed that line. A decision, I feel, you will carry as a heavy burden the rest of your career.

The correct response by you to this editorial error should have been a full apology without reservations or explanation. To further qualify your decision in the editorial process does nothing but excuse the action as if it was the mistake of spilling milk on a clean table. I would suggest that Concord Monitor take the advertising revenue from the Friday edition and pledge it to the thousands upon thousands of my grieving neighbors through one of the various charities seeking to meet their needs.

Sincerely yours,

Robert M. Toups, Jr.
(personal contact information deleted for WWW publication)

Looks like "Operation Freep Monitor" was a complete success. Thanks to all that pitched in! Free Speech is a mighty weapon. I can't believe the White House jumped into the fray! Do we rock or what?!?!?

55 posted on 02/08/2002 10:45:23 PM PST by toupsie
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