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WHERE IS DANIELLE VAN DAM? Town Is Rife With Talk!
Newsweek ^ | February 18, 2002 | Jamie Reno and Ana Figueroa

Posted on 02/18/2002 9:32:13 AM PST by FresnoDA

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Where is Danielle van Dam?

Feb. 18 issue ó †Itís been 10 days since 7-year-old Danielle van Dam went missing. The blonde, blue-eyed Girl Scout was last seen on the night of Feb. 1, comfy in her blue-flowered pjís as her father tucked her into bed on the second floor of the familyís loft-style house, snug in a California suburb. When her mother went to wake her the next morning, little Danielle was nowhere to be found.


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To: Johnny Shear
Yeah, you may be right that such tragedies happen daily, but would you admit that these parents (MAY) represent an attitude of cavalierness, by the promiscuous lifestyle? I mean Johnny, if they were singles, shackups or college kids, it wouldn't make it right, and it might just raise an eyebrow. But these people were conducting HARD CORE SWNGER SESSIONS in their home, with 3 small children in the house. Does that not make the case a bit bizarre in the least? I think it does.......FresnoDA
21 posted on 02/18/2002 10:25:04 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: wimpycat, Johnny Shear, FresnoDA
Is Westerfield did it he got into the house without leaving a scent trail that dogs could detect. Also, how was Danielle abducted? Was chloroform used? Was she then put into a sack and carried out unconscience?

Many children are reported missing every day, but it's my understanding most are recovered in short order.

When does the trash service visit the van Dam/Westerfield neightborhood? Have they started searching the landfill yet?

22 posted on 02/18/2002 10:29:09 AM PST by crypt2k
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To: spectre;FITZ;PoisedWoman;He Rides A White Horse
Pinging....)))
23 posted on 02/18/2002 10:33:40 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Are the van Dams /Westerfield/associates involved in any sort of new age religion or wiccan groups? Are the van Dams financially secure? Cell phone technician doesn't seem to be a high enough paying job to have a stay-at-home wife and pay for a large house in San Diego. Especially if they are partyers.
24 posted on 02/18/2002 10:34:04 AM PST by crypt2k
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To: crystalk
Does anyone know what time Danielle was reported missing? Just curious.
25 posted on 02/18/2002 10:35:30 AM PST by vacrn
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To: FresnoDA
In any case, sometime after Westerfield had left the bar, Mrs. van Dam returned with some friends to her house, where her husband, Damon, a 36-year-old engineer for cell-phone maker Qualcomm, had been taking care of Danielle and her two brothers, 5 and 9 years of age. The couple visited with the friends briefly and then went to sleep, without checking on the children.

The time does not appear brief. Based on Rick Roberts report it was more like several hours where they exchanged partners and did drugs.

26 posted on 02/18/2002 10:35:39 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: FresnoDA, crypt2k
Danielle was last seen the night before February 2, which is one of eight major ritual "sabbat" dates on the occult/witchcraft/satanism calendar.

DATE: October 31 NAME: *SAMHAIN; ALL HALLOWS' EVE; HALLOWEEN; NOVEMBER EVE WITCHCRAFT: Rituals to contact the dead SATANISTS: Sexual and blood rituals with animal or humans & animal or human sacrifice

DATE: December 21/22 NAME: YULE; WINTER SOLSTICE; WITCHCRAFT: Rituals celebrating the rebirth of the sun SATANISTS: Sexual rituals, animal or human

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

DATE: MARCH 20/21 NAME: Spring Equinox; Vernal Equinox WITCHCRAFT: This is a fertility sabbat. Pagans celebrate the coming of fertility of the earth; Sexual rituals celebrated by various groups. SATANISM: Orgies held; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: April 30 NAME: *BELTANE; MAY EVE; ROODMAS DAY; WALPURGISNACHT WITCHCRAFT: Rituals focusing on the love between male & female. In fact, many pagan handcastings (weddings) take place at this sabbat. Rituals celebrating the fertility of the Mother Goddess (Earth) are carried out. SATANISTS: Blood rituals; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: JUNE 21 NAME: SUMMER SOLSTICE; MIDSUMMER'S EVE; WITCHES: Bonfire rituals SATANISTS: Orgies; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: AUGUST 1 NAME: LUGNASADH (Named for Celtic Solar god Lugh);LAMMAS DAY WITCHES: Harvest rituals SATANISTS: Animal or Human sacrifice

DATE: SEPTEMBER 21 to 23 (Date varies annually) NAME: AUTUMN EQUINOX WITCHES: Some covens have rituals reenacting Pluto or Hades (grim god of death) forcefully carrying of Persephone (young goddess of life) to the underworld. SATANISTS: Sexual orgies and or animal and human sacrifice.


27 posted on 02/18/2002 10:41:17 AM PST by droid
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To: crystalk
Also, I am on the other threads to say that if the guilty part(ies) are ever found, if there are any, they will be persons who have been in the VDs' home with their knowledge and consent, and probably in connection with swinging/sex.

I've always wondered if something like this wasn't at the heart of the Jon Benet Ramsey case.

28 posted on 02/18/2002 10:45:26 AM PST by MaeWest
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To: droid

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

 

BIG FIND DROID, WOW!!!


29 posted on 02/18/2002 10:48:12 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: crypt2k

Friends recall Danielle as girl's girl

Brenda and Damon van Dam, both from south Florida, married 13 years ago. Danielle was born in Texas, and the family lived in a suburb of Dallas while she was a baby. They moved to Arizona and stayed less than a year before Damon van Dam found a new job in California.

Brenda, a stay-at-home mother, was the "cookie mom" for Danielle's Brownie troop and volunteers regularly in her children's classrooms.

"She loved for me to be there," Brenda van Dam said.

The mother and daughter are very close, said Call, the family friend. Brenda van Dam, who has referred to Danielle as her "best friend," often took her daughter with her to appointments at a beauty salon, and Danielle would sit in a massaging chair while her mother got manicures. Last year, she took Danielle to get her nails painted and her hair styled for a father-daughter dance at her elementary school. Yesterday, her mother hung ribbons at a park near their home to keep Danielle in people's minds.

Damon van Dam, the son of two teachers, spent the past nine months working as a contractor for Qualcomm. Before that, he worked for Nuera, a high-tech company in Sorrento Valley.

Damon travels regularly for business, and the family was planning to accompany him Feb. 11 on a two-week trip to Italy. Danielle was excited about the trip, her parents said.


$400,000 dollar house, Brenda VD is a "stay-home-mom"  I agree with your quary, WHERE DO THESE FOLKS GET THEIR MONEY???  Damon VD seems to be quite the job hopper?  In California, being a contractor is code-word for being Unemployed in the high tech community!!!

Very interesting...........is there money to be made in SWNGING???  If so, can't be that much???

30 posted on 02/18/2002 10:54:26 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: crypt2k;droid

This article offers a "locals" view into the Van Dam household.  Many unanswered questions???
DROIDS post, number 27 is spine chilling!!!  Freepers must investigate I believe!!

FresnoDA

Van Dam case is an example of how privacy goes public

February 7, 2002

Twice I've driven to the van Dam house, deep in the hyperventilating heart of Sabre Springs.

I wasn't expecting to learn much from this suburban crime scene.

The street where Danielle van Dam played is hardly an architectural or sociological enigma in this neck of the county.

It's your typical high-end, two-story tract housing on the southern end of what a decade ago was hopefully dubbed the "Diamond Gateway."

Back in the pioneer days of the early '90s, the sales pitch was for Rancho Peñasquitos, Carmel Mountain Ranch and Sabre Springs to serve as the northern entrance to San Diego.

From an aerial view, the three neighborhoods formed a rough diamond with Interstate 15 dividing its length.

North County's answer to the Golden Triangle, if you will.

Well, the concept of three united neighborhoods never caught on.

Over the course of the last decade, the master-planned communities at the northern end of the I-15 car-pool lanes evolved largely on their own.

In a word, they cocooned.

They turned inward to nurture and school the above-average children of their prosperous young families.

No, Sabre Springs, landscaped with half-grown trees that make the meticulously maintained houses look larger than they are, wasn't going to yield easy answers to a child's mysterious disappearance.

What, beyond the basic pathos, was to be learned from the purple (Danielle's favorite color) ribbons hanging from those trees on the road from the elementary school to Danielle's house?

These kinds of fluttering ornaments have become communal reflexes, it seems. With each passing day, the purple ribbons dry out and fray a little more in the Santa Ana winds.

And what was to be learned from the dozen or so media trucks with their satellite dishes on giraffe-like necks? Or the massive police command vehicle or the four-member crisis counseling team, huddled as if over a game of bridge?

And what was to be learned from watchful media colleagues, armed with cameras and notebooks, aching to report breathless news to the waiting world?

Not much.

What I ended up taking home was a simple image of what Danielle's block looked like to her.

How large and how safe it must have seemed to her blue eyes.

Like a new movie set with her a budding star.

Now that her sweet French name has become a household name, the facade of her little life is under a sort of siege.

Maybe like you, I've been listening to the radio talk shows, possible harbingers of what's to come after Danielle's fate is known.

Some voices criticized the late 10:30 p.m. bedtime for the 7-year-old. (I had the same thought, I confess.)

Others pointed at the partying until as late as 3 a.m.

Others the apparent failure to monitor the security system.

Those domestic details, normally the business of no one, are in the background as the police search for Danielle and her abductor.

In the Stephanie Crowe case, an unsolved Escondido homicide also involving a sleeping girl in her own bedroom, the whole Crowe family was subjected to trial in the court of public opinion.

When the stakes are terribly high, the standards of a family's privacy can be terribly low.

Driving down Danielle's street in Sabre Springs, you can imagine young families living happily inside their handsome homes.

As Pete Seeger might sing, "Big boxes all the same."

But when something like Danielle's disappearance occurs, the front doors get blown off.

Fairly or not, the whole world watches the stricken family's every move.


31 posted on 02/18/2002 10:59:48 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: droid
Pinging....) ) ) ) ) Poohbah!!

Check out Post#27, have you heard this angle on any local talk shoes in the Southern Cal region? May be a connection, interesting coincidence at the least, agreed?

32 posted on 02/18/2002 11:03:56 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
May be a connection, interesting coincidence at the least, agreed?

It is an interesting coincidence but it's the first I've heard of it and I try to catch anything of this story from local news, paper, etc.

However, I did think the other day that I have never heard either Brenda or Damon mention prayer or God. It may be that I've simply missed it, but nonetheless haven't heard anything resembling faith.

I thought it strange when the cameras caught Damon returning from his desert search yesterday (can't help but think of OJ looking for the REAL killer) that he was very flippant and said something like, "Nope....nothing. We didn't find anything." Then he took a few steps and said, "I wish this whole thing was just over with."

I know it is easy to read all sorts of things into every word and movement, but it seems more than an odd statement and attitude of a "grieving" and "concerned" father.

Even if the van Dams are not found to be responsible, their behavior will always be suspect, IMHO.

33 posted on 02/18/2002 11:30:13 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: FresnoDA
Been waiting for something new, but "witchcraft"?? Don't know about that?!

Maybe they "charged" for their orgies? Gotta keep up those housepayments and girly-girl trips to get those nails done!

"DANIELLE COME HOME"!

sw

34 posted on 02/18/2002 11:33:09 AM PST by spectre
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To: FresnoDA
I wonder if there are any freepers in that areas who are swingers and wife-swappers? If so, maybe they could give us some insight into this. parsy.
35 posted on 02/18/2002 11:34:10 AM PST by parsifal
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To: FresnoDA
Why are you so hot to implicate the parents, when the police are concentrating on Westerfield?

Apparently, the parent's lifestyle allowed their home and children to be targeted by a predator, but that doesn't make them the guilty party.

36 posted on 02/18/2002 11:34:50 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: parsifal
Ahh, no parsifal, that is the last thing we won't. Those "type" had the last 2 Van Damned threads totally pulled by the moderators.....but if you think it will help the story, so be it!!!! LOL FresnoDA
37 posted on 02/18/2002 11:36:59 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
oopps, I meant, "want" My Bad!!
38 posted on 02/18/2002 11:37:47 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Valpal1
Why are you so hot to implicate the parents, when the police are concentrating on Westerfield?

Apparently, the parent's lifestyle allowed their home and children to be targeted by a predator, but that doesn't make them the guilty party.

No implication, I am not LE in the San Diego area, at least!!  But their actions, life style and alibi would be suspect, at least it would be in Fresno (DA)!!

 

DANIELLE VAN DAM MISSING FOR 17 DAYS-KFMB TV

( 02-18-2002 ) - The second grader has been missing now for more than two weeks. Over the weekend, volunteers combed the desert area in Glamis, Borrego Springs and Ocotillo, looking for clues that would lead them to Danielle van Dam.

This comes as the sheriff's search and rescue team scoured areas in Poway.


The Van Dams have been recruiting volunteers to join efforts in finding their daughter. There are plans for additional searches in the desert on Monday.

“The Borrego Spring and Glamis searches are still going today, organized searches. Ocotillo is not having organized searches, but anyone coming in from the Superstition South Imperial Dunes area can go by Ocotillo Fire Department and let them know what you’ve seen. Even if it’s nothing that will help. We can mark it off our maps,” said Damon van Dam at a Monday morning press conference.

Damon van Dam went to the desert this weekend to thank the volunteers for their commitment to search for his little girl. He handed out fliers in Ocotillo, Borrego Springs, and Glamis, where potential suspect David Westerfield went in his motor home the weekend that Danielle disappeared, 17 days ago.

“He was very emotional last night and having a breakdown. He didn’t have the comfort of the boys and I, and that was very hard for him,” said Brenda van Dam.

Hundreds of people spent this holiday weekend pitching in, but there was still no sign of Danielle.


“It’s been kind of hard out there with one friend and I’m getting support from a lot of people, but it’s been hard without Brenda and the kids for the couple days. But there’s so many people helping, it’s great to see and we need more people. We need to keep it going today,” said Damon van Dam.

There was no progress for police and other investigators searching in the Poway area canyons.

Damon van Dam plans to return to the Christmas Circle area of Borrego Springs Monday to continue the search.

Danielle Search Center
12411 Poway Road.
(858) 485-4185

 

39 posted on 02/18/2002 11:40:17 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Valpal1
Apparently, the parent's lifestyle allowed their home and children to be targeted by a predator, but that doesn't make them the guilty party.

Maybe.....maybe not. At the least they are bordering on criminal negligence, IMO.

40 posted on 02/18/2002 11:44:03 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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