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To: tortoise
"I've actually been intentionally ignoring the direction you are taking it because you won't like the results. For example, how do we verify this premised designer? By what process was the design accomplished? What were the physical mechanisms used for speciation by the hypothetical designer?"

I have no problem with scientific results. How do we verify a designer of Life? We look in the lab. Have we physically observed an intelligent designer creating a new variety of Life? Yes, for instance in the case of genetically-modified pig organs for human transplants. What process was used? DNA programming. What physical mechanisms for speciation were used? Gene-splicing.

Is this an actual example of Intelligent Design creating Life, rather than new life self-Evolving? Yes. Can Evolutionary Theory predict it or explain it? No.

Does this mean that Intelligent Design is possible, and therefor Evolution is no longer the "only game in town"? Yes.

302 posted on 03/04/2002 9:04:14 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack
Does this mean that Intelligent Design is possible, and therefor Evolution is no longer the "only game in town"?

I never said that evolution was the only game in town. Both are valid hypotheses (which I've stated over, and over, and over...). However, the usual ID hypothesis does not use a human designer as a premise. You won't get any traction from this fact unless you are positing that speciation was designed by man (and I am pretty sure that is not what you are saying). Just because we've verified that human designers can cause speciation in no way verifies the existence of non-human designers.

307 posted on 03/04/2002 9:35:33 PM PST by tortoise
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