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To: serious1
Oh cut the crap.

I won't cut it, but I will shovel it back in your face now that you have dealt us all a load.

EdReform disinformation posts usually lead to sites that spout false rhetoric and most are asking for a Godly donation to fight that Ole Time Religion fight of We's Betta Than Them. So send $$ now so we can stop it.

While I don't agree with all of EdReform's posts and the source material, such sites and the organizations that sponsor them are the ONLY alternative to the mainstream media's rubber stamp and promotion of whatever the Gay-stapo spits out. THEY CALL THE SHOTS! That is a fact beyond reasonable doubt, and if you doubt it, it's willful ignorance.

Here's an example of this fact, circa yesterday:


[Rosie] O'Donnell has taped an interview with Diane Sawyer to air as a two-hour show on ABC's PrimeTime Thursday on March 14, to talk chiefly about the case of two gay men in Florida who face having a foster child they raised removed from their home. State law won't let them adopt. O'Donnell also is a foster — and adoptive — mother.

Before the show, O'Donnell told USA TODAY she chose to talk to Sawyer because she wanted an investigative piece on Florida's ban on gay adoption. She told Sawyer if that was done, "I would like to talk about my life and how (the case) pertains to me."


Rosie told ABC News she wanted a story, and they capitulated. Rosie said "Jump!" and Diane Sawyer said, "How high?" Rosie ordered a story on gay adoption, and David Westin delivered it like a Domino's driver. Don't tell me they don't have more power than any other pressure group in the USA, and if some other group does, I would like to hear which you think contends with them.

I mean it. Don't chicken out. Who?

These "preaching techniques" are as old as time -- been watching and reading the "send money for Christ" since I was a teenager (a full generation ago) and pop (a hard-line conservative social christian) used to get these. It's all about money and much less about actually solving the problem: To wit ~~ EdReform pages: (snip)

Well, here we go. "It's all about money..." If it isn't hatred and bigotry that conservative religious organizations are being accused of, it's baseless charges of fleecing the flock. That response really put the "jerk" in "knee-jerk."

I don't know about the finances of the AFA or NARTH or groups like Eagle Forum or Leadership U. or CWFA -- however, you seem to presume they are crooks simply because they are asking for donations. How weak can you possibly get? Talk about "disinformation" -- you got something to back up your allegations besides your memories of your father's mail?

While the queer radicals are passing the hat and raising money all over the country for their political issues, candidates, and agenda, those who wish to meet them on the battlefield of ideas are supposed to do so armed with altruism and nothing else?

I dare you to name an organization that stands for change -- either political, social, religious, or financial -- that doesn't hold out its hand in some way and ask for assistance. And if you read the piece, you would have noticed that it took NARTH years to raise the funds necessary to compile a booklet countering that deceptive, dishonest, and bigoted "Just the Facts" publication that was mailed to every school district in the country in 1999.

Think it's cheap to operate a website? Ask Jim Robinson!

Regardless of the intentions of the organizations that EdReform has linked to, how many of the reports are erroneous? Even if you don't believe that reparative therapy is legitimate, do you believe that teaching children to experiment sexually is acceptable behavior? Do you believe in using materials specifically designed to undermine moral values taught at students' homes? Do you believe in putting books that glorify pedophilia on schools' reading lists? Do you believe in the suppression of speech and expression in the name of "diversity" and "safety" for supposedly gay children?

In short, "serious1" -- are you so determined to object to what EdReform posts that you are willing to swallow everything the queer radicals give you?

112 posted on 02/28/2002 3:58:02 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: EdReform
Check out 111. I got your back, Ed. Keep kickin'!
113 posted on 02/28/2002 4:01:50 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: EdReform
I meant....Check out 112. I got your back, Ed. Keep kickin'!
114 posted on 02/28/2002 4:02:33 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: serious1;L.N. Smithee;erizona
"Regardless of the intentions of the organizations that EdReform has linked to, how many of the reports are erroneous? Even if you don't believe that reparative therapy is legitimate, do you believe that teaching children to experiment sexually is acceptable behavior? Do you believe in using materials specifically designed to undermine moral values taught at students' homes? Do you believe in putting books that glorify pedophilia on schools' reading lists? Do you believe in the suppression of speech and expression in the name of "diversity" and "safety" for supposedly gay children?"

Well serious1 - do you?

133 posted on 03/03/2002 11:57:49 AM PST by EdReform
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To: L.N. Smithee
The homosexuals want what they want no matter the detriment to society or the children who have to spend their lives in therapy. Much of which we will end up picking up the tab.
135 posted on 03/03/2002 12:46:52 PM PST by Khepera
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