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1 posted on 02/26/2002 6:59:13 AM PST by Pokey78
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2 posted on 02/26/2002 7:00:57 AM PST by Pokey78
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Three weeks ago, Robert Fisk, the Middle East correspondent of Britain's Independent, offered a familiar argument to Pearl's kidnappers: Killing the American would be "a major blunder, an own goal of the worst kind," "the best way of ensuring that the suffering" -- of Kashmiris, Afghans, Palestinians, whatever -- "goes unrecorded." Others peddled a similar line: If you release Daniel, he'll be able to tell your story, get your message out.

Hhahahahhaa
Robert Fisk, ever the faithful shill for the Islamics and other "oppressed" 3rd worlders. Even after a bunch of Pakis kicked the tar out of him  few weeks back.

3 posted on 02/26/2002 7:11:23 AM PST by dennisw
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Thanks for the Styne bump list!
4 posted on 02/26/2002 7:11:52 AM PST by dennisw
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Well I guess we'll never see the video here. Not to worry, they'll have us star in our own versions.

I wouldn't put it past them to be stuffing his head and mounting it on a board...

6 posted on 02/26/2002 7:18:00 AM PST by null and void
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To: Pokey78; *Clash of Civilizatio
Steyn at peak form.
7 posted on 02/26/2002 7:21:40 AM PST by denydenydeny
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Wow - this one took my breath away!
9 posted on 02/26/2002 7:23:03 AM PST by mombonn
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Unfortunately the fools who need to absorb this article the most never will. I've never understood the British love of the Levant. The Fiskers would offer themselves as an Eid sacrifice rather than admit the faults of their beloved.

It is amazing how few remember how Pakistan was created, even Ari Fleisher seemed to have forgotten (I'm generous) the other day. An Islamic case of nerves caused millions of people to be uprooted from a land where their anscestors probably lived for a 1,000 years to become free Muslims and slaves to each other. Pakistan, if I remember from Naipul correctly, is supposed to translate as Islamic paradise on earth. They have been so close to Hades all these years that Hell is a local call. How many innocent people died just because Islamics couldn't live next to Hindus and Sikhs? It's the same pattern all over the world. In the Philipines the Muslims can't live with the Christians, in Inodnesia, in Israel. When will it be the US' turn to feel the unease?

10 posted on 02/26/2002 7:30:18 AM PST by rebdov
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Man, is this right on. Squishy, I-Want-to-Buy-the-World-a- Coke-and-Sing-in-Perfect-Harmony, multicultural diversity, "valuing the difference," moral equivalency Liberals like Mr. Pearl just never get it. Without taking from the horror of what happened to him (and his wife and unborn son), I cannot fathom the mindset of American Liberal Jews like Pearl. And hold the cries of anti-Semitism: I am also a Jew, but a Conservative, Vietnam vet type, JPFO kind of Jew. The only one in my congregation, but that's another story... This article nails it. Radical Islam is about converting the world to Islam or killing resisters, plus death to all Jews. But Mr. Pearl and his likethinks don't get it. Yet.
12 posted on 02/26/2002 7:35:47 AM PST by pabianice
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Who would "the victim of the world" blame next? The evidence of the Sudan, Nigeria, and other parts of Africa suggests that, when there are no Jews to hand, the Islamofascists happily make do with killing Christians. In Kashmir, it's the Hindus' fault. There's always someone.

"... and thats the bottom line" </stonecold>

13 posted on 02/26/2002 7:40:10 AM PST by Paradox
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I wonder how long the 'Phoney War' as Peggy Noonan called it in her column will go on? How many and how large will the conflagrations heaped upon us by the islamo-nazis have to be to actually arrouse the American people and our government to effective and appropriate action?

The limited engagement so far initiated has been a decent prelude. If the fascists are smart they will lay back with only small harrassment type ops for a while so that we move many of our men and munitions back to the comforts of home. Then another WTC sort of attack. Maybe bigger this time.

What will it take for us to recognise that we are at war with Islam? That an inferior, indeed disfunctional and insane culture has called us out? They will not stop untill they are utterly decimated. And if any remnat survives, which it will, it shall needs be decimated again in fifty years or so.

There is no redeeming virtue or aspect to Mohamed and the sick religion he fostered. It is a culture of death. We must give it what it so thoroughly craves and lusts after.

We must prove to them that their god is no god at all. Just a bad dream that has lasted too long.

I know this is utterly un-PC but it's throat cutting time folks. It's either them or us.

14 posted on 02/26/2002 7:43:29 AM PST by mercy
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The press has not done themselves a favor by covering this story so vigorously.

There are a lot of hostages in the world, some of them American. They are not getting this coverage. The hostage has to be a member of the press to get the story covered.

Just as paying ransomes begets more kidnappings, press coverage begets more kidnappings.

Expect more press-nappings -- it's the best way to publicize a position.

17 posted on 02/26/2002 7:51:15 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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I think the WSJ reporter should be nominated for the Darwin Awards, myself.
18 posted on 02/26/2002 7:55:25 AM PST by Dark Wing
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I think the WSJ reporter should be nominated for the Darwin Awards, myself.
19 posted on 02/26/2002 7:55:28 AM PST by Dark Wing
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about Fisk's bloody beating by an Afghan mob in Pakistan last December, after which he said that, in their shoes, "I would have done just the same to Robert Fisk. Or any other Westerner I could find." It's not their fault, he insisted, their "brutality is entirely the product of others." As Fisk sees it, the mob who attacked him were "truly innocent of any crime except being the victim of the world." ............................Let's SEE which side of his mouth he's talking out of. After all, if what he says is TRUE, then he should have NOOOOO second thoughts about going to that hellhole and bringing back the decapitated body of his friend.

Right?

Fisk, that's a Jewish name, isn't it?

21 posted on 02/26/2002 7:58:32 AM PST by mommadooo3
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Radical islam is an insane death cult.

"Moderate" islam is the Trojan horse of radical islam.

God knows the entire islamic world needs a modern Ataturk, but I doubt that the man lives who could pull off the job and survive.

22 posted on 02/26/2002 8:00:37 AM PST by Travis McGee
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bttt
25 posted on 02/26/2002 8:06:18 AM PST by Huck
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BTTT. Good post. Well done for Steyn.
28 posted on 02/26/2002 8:15:37 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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Mark Steyn: He was an American, a Jew -- a trophy

Excerpt:

Daniel Pearl reckoned he could ride the tiger: he was promised a meeting with an Islamofascist bigwig, so he got in a car with intermediaries he thought he knew. George Jonas wrote a brilliant column the other day on the delusions of those who think they can "establish a 'dialogue' with fanatics" or, as some of Pearl's friends put it, "bridge the misconceptions." The "misconception", presumably, is that these men are ruthless, violent, depraved. As surely we know by now, the only misconception is that that's a misconception.

Pearl thought he had won their trust, that they had accepted him as an honest broker, recognized his genuine sympathy for Muslim suffering, were willing to treat with him as one human being to another. But in the end they saw none of that: To them, he was an American, a Jew, a trophy. So they set a trap. According to one witness in a Karachi court, Omar Sheikh boasted two days beforehand that they were about to seize someone who was "anti-Islam and a Jew." By the time Robert Fisk issued his plea for mercy on February 4th, Pearl was already dead.

In Saturday's Independent, Fisk reflected on the death of the man described as his friend: "But why was he killed? Because he was a Westerner, a 'Kaffir'? Because he was an American? Or because he was a journalist?" Anyone spot the missing category? It's the one Omar Sheikh used, and the one acknowledged by Daniel Pearl in his last words: "Yes, I am a Jew ..." Fisk can't bring himself to use the word in the entire column. Full disclosure: After noodling incoherently around possible reasons for the murder, Fisk settles on a "shameful, unethical headline" over an "article by Mark Steyn" in Pearl's own Wall Street Journal. It was about Fisk's bloody beating by an Afghan mob in Pakistan last December, after which he said that, in their shoes, "I would have done just the same to Robert Fisk. Or any other Westerner I could find." It's not their fault, he insisted, their "brutality is entirely the product of others." As Fisk sees it, the mob who attacked him were "truly innocent of any crime except being the victim of the world." In The Wall Street Journal, I called this "Fiskal responsibility -- it's always the Great Satan's fault."
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29 posted on 02/26/2002 8:19:23 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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Islam is not "the victim of the world," but the victim of itself.

Wow! Mark Steyn sums up in one sentence the entire problem with Islam. This entire article is superb and a must-read.

33 posted on 02/26/2002 11:15:10 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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Excellent article.
41 posted on 02/26/2002 12:58:04 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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