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To: ancient_geezer
Can Congress return tax dollars to selected portions of the taxpayers under the constitution?

No. Congress can lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, only for the common defense or general welfare according to the constitution. The EITC should be found unconstitutional on its face. The taxing power was intended to be (thus) limited.

Not any more it seems. Now with great swelling of words, the 'courts' declare that public policy trancends rights to property. Anyone claiming his property becomes a kind of enemy of the State. I regret to say Dershowitz is right. The Constitution is dead letter. Public policy has so colored the actions of government, that it rules now. Wouldnt you agree?

13 posted on 03/04/2002 10:36:42 PM PST by allrightythen
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To: allrightythen
AG is on the government dole as is pig. AG once claimed Clinton was paying him (I have the proof)...now I suppose he thinks Bush is paying him...simply put, in spite of all his spam he doesn't really know/care where his money comes from or if it's constitutional as long as you keep sending it....You don't think anyone on the government dole would admit the money they receive every month is un-constitutional do you?
14 posted on 03/04/2002 10:52:58 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: allrightythen

No. Congress can lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, only for the common defense or general welfare according to the constitution. The EITC should be found unconstitutional on its face.

So should all specialised exemptions and deductions in the IRC and tax only on gross on a basis of receipts. If you accomplished that, the Individual Income tax would become a true Flat Tax, with a rate of 13%, the SS/Mediscare income tax would drop to 8% paid on all wages not just the first $80k.

Fine, now file your law suit if you can find standing and grounds and get it done. I haven't figured out away to accomplish that myself.

MCCRAY v. U S, 195 U.S. 27 (1904)

If you can get over the bar, you'll do us all a favor.

Personally I would like to get rid of the IRS, legal jeopardy and political control of the income/payroll tax system myself and banish it all replacing it with a flat single rate tax at point of retail sale. That way we could scrap the IRS intrusion into our personal finances as well.

16 posted on 03/05/2002 6:26:19 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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To: allrightythen

Public policy has so colored the actions of government, that it rules now. Wouldnt you agree?

Public policy is legislative intent and always has been, or didn't you realize that? You want a different policy, you had better figure out a way of replacing the numbskulls in Congress.

U S v. FISHER, 6 U.S. 358 (1805)

FLETCHER v. PECK, 10 U.S. 87 (1810)

"The question, whether a law be void for its repugnancy to the constitution, is, at all times, a question of much delicacy, which ought seldom, if ever, to be decided in the affirmative, in a doubtful case. The court, when impelled by duty to render such a judgment, would be unworthy of its station, could it be unmindful of the solemn obligations which that station imposes. But it is not on slight implication and vague conjecture that the legislature is to be pronounced to have transcended its powers, and its acts to be considered as void. The opposition between the constitution and the law should be such that the judge feels a clear and strong conviction of their incompatibility with each other."

FindLaw: U S v. GOLDENBERG, 168 U.S. 95,103 (1897)

"The primary and general rule of statutory construction is that the intent of the lawmaker is to be found in the language that he has used. He is presumed to know the meaning of words and the rules of grammar. The courts have no function of legislation, and simply seek to ascertain the will of the legislator.

FindLaw: RODGERS v. U S, 185 U.S. 83 (1902)
"The primary rule of statutory construction is, of course, to give effect to the intention of the legislature."


17 posted on 03/05/2002 7:43:43 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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