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To: chainsaw
You get lost.

How many animals actually drop dead on the spot? How many get away with a bullet in them only to suffer for days on end.

117 posted on 04/08/2002 6:35:07 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
How many animals actually drop dead on the spot?

The majority. See my number 116.

120 posted on 04/08/2002 6:39:06 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Sungirl
Im assuming your opposed to hunting based on reasons of cruelty or lack of necessity, maybe because you dont feel that humans should eat meat at all.

I think maybe instead of attacking hunters who are actually playing a role in the ecosystem a better might be corporations that inject unhealthy hormones into meat and vegetable products.

Part of the problem with some environmentalists is that they are the product of the very society they question. They see themselves as being seperated from nature, not as a part of it. This reflects in their worldview that people should not hunt.

Maybe they would prefer that people go to the mall, buy some products from those nice environmentalists at Union Carbide and eat some arbys burgers instead? Because thats exactly what will happen. People wont stop eating meat, they will simply move from obtaining it themselves to having a producer package it up and sell it to them - usually with 50% more fat and loaded with unhealthy steroids and growth hormones.

If our forest acreage is protected by concerned citizens who want to hunt isnt that a better alternative than urban sprawl? I can see far more positives from having a society that values its natural resources and wildlife, even if for hunting purposes than a society that sees all natural resources as being nothing but disposable acreage for a future sludge plant.

134 posted on 04/08/2002 6:52:11 PM PDT by cascademountaineer
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To: Sungirl
How many animals actually drop dead on the spot? How many get away with a bullet in them only to suffer for days on end.

Pretty much every deer dies within minutes, or at least within a half hour. That is precisely why we practice to make a humane quick killing shot. I shudder at people who shoot at moving game. It is the rare person who can reliably "wingshot" a running deer and we hunters know it.

With a bow shot the initial sting of the arrow, which at the speed it's traveling is going to feel not much worse than a hornet sting and then will pretty much be over. Then the animal will feel tired and dizzy as blood pressure is lost immediately to the lungs. It will run and fall down, often they don't even realize they are in danger. An animal that is gut shot and isn't frightened in the process may suffer, but animals don't realize they are going to die. They don't form emotional bonds with others the way we do. So they aren't lying there panicking with thoughts of their own mortality and sayig goodbye to their friends/children/loved onesthe way we humans would. It's all very matter of fact to them.

142 posted on 04/08/2002 6:59:33 PM PDT by Terriergal
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