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Another Poll Confirms... SIMON LEADS DAVIS
e-mail I received ^ | Tuesday, April 16, 2002 | The RMR INSIDER

Posted on 04/16/2002 11:52:27 AM PDT by Gophack

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To: dpwiener
As I mentioned before, seeing Simon hold his own after the initial poo-pooing of the media and Davis campaign is only going to help him by improving his fundraising (a bit slow so far) and inspiring his volunteers and potential volunteers. And he's got, I believe, two scheduled Presidential and one Vice Presidential fundraisers/visits as his trump cards.
61 posted on 04/16/2002 6:04:33 PM PDT by Coop
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To: Coop
seeing Simon hold his own ... is only going to help him by improving his fundraising (a bit slow so far)

Obviously Simon wants to raise as much money as he can from other people, but ultimately he's going to have to fork over between $25 and $50 million of his personal fortune if he hopes to be competitive with Davis. That's a ton of money, even for Simon. So the question is, how badly does he really want to win?

62 posted on 04/16/2002 6:14:02 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: dpwiener
He should be spending heavily to run his own positive ads introducing himself to non-Republicans and establishing a favorable image

Personally, I think that it's too early. The only time ads MAY have worked would have been the week after the election. But the fact is, Davis spent most of his money attacking Riordan and Simon spent most of his money promoting himself. Simon had the moral high ground ... and still has it.

Now, ads are a waste. No one is focusing on the election (although they are more interested now than, say, a month before the primary). It's a waste of money to run hits or puffs.

As to whether Simon can combat Davis: the fact is, Simon is a proven fundraiser. He isn't as good as Davis, but then again he doesn't have the power to sign or veto legislation and used that power to leverage campaign contributions. And, even if he had the power, he's too honest to shake down businesses.

Davis is corrupt. IF he wins re-election, I don't know if he'll be around for four years. He has many, many problems and even the liberal press is getting annoyed with his campaign finance shenanigans.

Simon can combat Davis. He doesn't need the same amount of money. He needs about half of whatever Davis has. Because Democrats waste money, and at some point more money won't get you more votes.

Go Simon!

63 posted on 04/16/2002 6:49:20 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Robert357
However, most of the traditional survey's by telephone tend to over count democrats rather than republicans...

Not true, actually. I have done extensive polling for independent polling outfits, and it is standard practice to inquire about political affiliation and to make the sample reflect the proportions of registered Reps/Dems/Libs/Greens in the general population. So cheer up, because while 6 1/2 months is too early to declare that Davis is 'done', he is starting to brown up real good and emit a savory odor!

64 posted on 04/16/2002 7:08:53 PM PDT by pariah
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To: Gophack
Personally, I think that it's too early. The only time ads MAY have worked would have been the week after the election. But the fact is, Davis spent most of his money attacking Riordan and Simon spent most of his money promoting himself.

Right after the primary election would have been the time for Simon to take advantage of the buzz and spend money defining himself. Simon has the personal funds, so he could have made the commitment. I agree that the public interest has now slacked off until closer to the election, but it was a missed opportunity.

Similarly, Davis had tens of millions of dollars available, and chose not to instantly go on the attack. I don't believe he botched the opportunity, I think it was a calculated decision that attack ads at that time would likely backfire. Davis would have done it if he thought he could have gotten away with it. Simon is fortunate the way that decision went, because it would have certainly done major damage to him even if it also hurt Davis.

65 posted on 04/16/2002 7:26:51 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: dpwiener
I don't disagree with you, I just don't know if you are right. We'll see. Simon doesn't have as much money as Davis and needs to save it. Also, all the political pundits kept saying in the primary when SImon had 5% on January 1 that he could never make it up, he should have spent in November, he should have attacked Riordan earlier, he should have done this, he should have done that ... and who won?

The strategy that Simon employed in the primary couldn't have worked better. It was part skill, part luck and part timing. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the campaign team that capitalized on Riordan's weakness and plotted the perfect 18 point victory.

Now that March is over, we need to think about where the voters are today. Today, they are not thinking about the campaign. Davis keeps trying to get earned media on the abortion issue and it's not getting him the votes. The hardcore liberals are with him. The hardcore conservatives are with Simon ... that's a third of the electorate on both sides. Will the so-called "middle" vote on abortion or energy? I don't know. I think energy. Also, we often forget the great block of sometime-voters, often religious and disillusioned, apolitical but concerned about society. They may see someone in Bill Simon they could vote for. They start coming out, they bring their friends ... and they add to our Republican base.

Anyway, I'm rambling as I often do about politics and voting. Excuse me. I appreciate your reasoned argument, and you may in fact be right. But now, it's a different ball game, and we'll see where we go from here.

Go Simon!

66 posted on 04/16/2002 7:49:43 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
If the race is close which it probably will be, turnout will be key. That means Davis will have to racialize the election to get huge black and Hispanic turnouts. Bring in Jesse Jackson etc. Get some nice inflammatory remarks going. Try in some fashion to link Simon with the Rodney King incident or something. He'll probably bring Clintoon in too since blacks still swoon at the mere mention of his name.
67 posted on 04/16/2002 8:00:15 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Gophack;Elk Grove Dan;homeschool mama;All
I am PRAYING that he wins. Did you all see that thread re: CA and the homosexuals?

To quote one paragraph: "Sacramento - Controversial legislation to teach homosexuality throughout the foster care system has been introduced in the California State Legislature. AB 2651 by Democrat Assemblywoman Judy Chu of Monterey Park would indoctrinate foster children to embrace and experiment with homosexual behavior."

We NEED to lose Squat and gain control of the legislature!!!!!!!!!!

68 posted on 04/16/2002 8:11:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: dpwiener
but ultimately he's going to have to fork over between $25 and $50 million of his personal fortune if he hopes to be competitive with Davis.

$25-50 mil of his own money? No way. Gray-out has $30 million, not $300 million.

69 posted on 04/17/2002 4:59:03 AM PDT by Coop
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To: lasereye; ElkGroveDan
I have always said that Republicans need to basically forget the black vote. I am not a racist, and there are many good black people out there, but they are completely misguided by the liberal Democrats. They've been manipulated and lied to and catered to, and they haven't seen any long-term benefits from the Democrats. Blacks are still overwhelmingly in poverty, still on welfare, and still faring poorly on tests. It is a sad state of affairs that Republicans, whose ideas of personal responsibility, school choice and welfare-to-work programs would help the poor, are sold by the Democrats as racist and hateful.

That being said, we can and should go after the Hispanic vote. Not in the way the liberal Republicans would have us do it, but by highlighting the similarities between Republican ideas and Hispanic/Catholic values. The more Gray Davis talks about abortion on demand and contraceptives for teenagers, the more Hispanics are going to stand back and say, wait a minute. Is this the guy we want as governor? The guy who's going to give our daughters condoms? Send them for abortions without our knowledge?

At the same time, Hispanics are not the same in the north and the south. L.A. Hispanics are liberals; central valley and northern California Hispanics are more conservative. It's also a generational thing: the longer they have been in the state, the more conservative they are. This doesn't mean that they are REpublican, but it means that they have REpublican/Conservative values. These are the people who gave Prop. 22 a huge victory, the people who voted over 80% for the initiative.

George Bush has done a great job reaching out to Hispanics, and it wasn't by giving them welfare, blaming Republicans because their kids weren't learning, or telling them that he thinks they should have access to abortion and free contraceptives. It's because he talks in value=terms he and they share, uniting rather than dividing.

We can do that too.

With that being said, you are absolutely right about turn-out being the key. The electorate is constantly changing. People who voted in 1994 and gave Republicans a national victory, many haven't voted since because they felt lied to and manipulated. We need to bring those people back to the polls. I think Bill Simon can do it.

We need to rally our churches, make sure that people understand that this race is for the future of California. Four more years of Gray Davis will not only bring higher taxes, less energy, lower test scores and failed leadership, but will bring us gay marriage, contraceptives for our children, more abortions and less accountability in government and in schools.

Bill Simon is a conservative, he is compassionate, he has the background and ideas to lead our state. He's not perfect. But he's honest and he's moral. Everyone on FR needs to commit to volunteering 100 hours between now and election day, and commit to writing letters to the editor, contacting our friends and neighbors, and working to elect a good, moral, thoughtful, intelligent man as governor of California.

Go Simon!

70 posted on 04/17/2002 9:00:06 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
I commend your enthusiasm and wish you and Bill Simon well.
71 posted on 04/17/2002 10:39:04 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Gophack
bump.
72 posted on 04/17/2002 10:59:43 AM PDT by patent
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To: Gophack
Yippeeee!! Go Simon GO!
73 posted on 04/17/2002 11:02:03 AM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
If California Elects Simon, then we can give Hillary a nice big SEND OFF since that means she can kiss her hopes of a Presidency goodby!!! I'm praying for this miracle to happen!
74 posted on 04/17/2002 11:48:57 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Gophack
Another $25 to Simon. Sorry to say but it takes money to win. I'll try to make it a montly donation till November.
75 posted on 04/17/2002 7:18:49 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Gophack
I hope Simon is studying hard right now the details of California issues, and is preparing positions that are credible and coherent and nuanced. Otherwise, he will be made mincemeat of, and his poll numbers will vanish. Is he humble enough to realize that his performance to date is insufficient to get the gold? Time will tell.
76 posted on 04/17/2002 7:22:12 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
I hope Simon is studying hard right now the details of California issues, and is preparing positions that are credible and coherent and nuanced

I think that he's focused on the right issues -- the ones most Californians care about -- energy, the economy and education, all of which have the mark of Davis' failed leadership.

Davis is a corrupt politician. He needs to go for more reasons than just because he's a liberal. If Simon stays on message and offers sound solutions -- which I think he has an excellent chance of winning.

Go Simon!

77 posted on 04/17/2002 7:34:29 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
You don't happen to have a link to this good news posted elsewhere, do you?
78 posted on 04/19/2002 9:57:43 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Coop
Sorry, I got this in my email. I don't have it printed, and I haven't seen it in the newspapers. If I do, I'll ping you.
79 posted on 04/19/2002 10:33:11 AM PDT by Gophack
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To: Gophack
Thanks
80 posted on 04/19/2002 10:51:15 AM PDT by Coop
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