Bush's 'open door' slammed

Washington Times ^ | Friday, April 19, 2002 | By Jerry Seper

[JohnHuang2]

President Bush is the leading obstacle to controlling illegal immigration in this country and his "open door" border policy is a threat to national security, the Republican chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus said yesterday.

Rep. Tom Tancredo told editors and reporters in a luncheon meeting at The Washington Times that Mr. Bush is out of step with the majority of Americans who want immigration reform and that his "altruistic views" on the subject were an open invitation to new terrorist attacks.

[JohnHuang2]

Friday, April 19, 2002

Quote of the Day by kattracks 4/19/02

[Marine Inspector]

Ping

[RLK]

Bush is crusading for an open door because he has an empty head.

[PRND21]

WASHINGTON, April 18 — By a unanimous vote, the Senate passed a bill today to increase the security of the nation's borders, to improve enforcement of immigration laws and to restrict the admission of visitors from countries that support terrorism.

The vote was 97 to 0.

The House has passed two bills with very similar provisions and is expected to accept the changes made by the Senate.

President Bush supports the legislation and has described border security as one of his top priorities.

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Tancredo - Grandstanding at it's worst.

[DoughtyOne]

[america-rules]

"Border defense needs to be closely coordinated, and overseen by responsible officials with both the resources and the commitment to do their jobs."

Lets be real.. True border control would require at least 500,000 to maybe 1,000,000 border agents. The cost of doing this would be crazy so what do we do. We here control the borders, control the borders but nothing about the dollars it would take to really make it happen. You say use the military like O'Rielly keeps harping on but the numbers are the same so we'd need half a million more military troops with probably 150 Billion dollars added to the defense budget?

[DoughtyOne]

How dare you post the truth on this forum!!!

[Pelham]

bump

[Pelham]

Sounds like the Michael Medved "Just give up, it can't be done" line.

[brat]

Tell it like it is, Rep. Tancredo!

[goldstategop]

We need a "Closed Door" policy in the aftermath of 9-11. We will continue to make sure individuals inimical to the U.S don't slip in and create more havoc. We have too many injured and dead to continue business as usual when it comes to our national immigration policy and control over this country's borders.

[Sabertooth]

Lets be real.. True border control would require at least 500,000 to maybe 1,000,000 border agents. The cost of doing this would be crazy so what do we do? We hear control the borders, control the borders but nothing about the dollars it would take to really make it happen.

Listen again...

They Will
Deport Themsleves

1. Make the Illegals and their Co-conspirators, their employers, pay for the necessary expenditures through Total Asset Forfeiture. Seize businesses that knowingly hire Illegals, and auction them off. Proceeds go to enforcement against Illegals in the American Interior.

2. You want manpower? After 9/11, many Americans were looking for ways to volunteer... How about creating a Border Patrol Reserve. A lot of patriotic, over-40 types woul be only too happy to serve

3. We need to make up our minds to win the War against Illegals before the shooting starts in earnest. The same snivelers saying we can't win against Illegals once said we couldn't win against Terror.

We're America, and we can win any war we want to win. Get used to it.

[MissAmericanPie]

Bravo Sabertooth, all you have listed is pure common sense.

[MissAmericanPie]

Tancredo would be ten times a better President we any we have ever had.

[skeeter]

Maybe we ought to send those contributions earmarked for the Bush campaign to Tancredo's office instead. That'd get Rove's attention.

[Tauzero]

"the Senate passed a bill today to increase the security of the nation's borders, to improve enforcement of immigration laws and to restrict the admission of visitors from countries that support terrorism."

Fine words, but what do the bills actually do?

[Tauzero]

"You say use the military like O'Rielly keeps harping on but the numbers are the same so we'd need half a million more military troops with probably 150 Billion dollars added to the defense budget?"

Gee, that sure sounds like a lot.

As a cost-saving measure, we could use minefields.

[rintense]

Guess what, Sabertooth. I completely agree with you.

[Tancredo Fan]

"Closed borders, open borders. I used to think it was Karl Rove [the White House political strategist] and his outreach to Hispanics," Mr. Tancredo said. "But no, it's Mr. Bush. He's driving the issue himself. He believes in open borders.

"He made promises to Fox and wants to keep Fox in power," he said.

The globalist one-term wonder gets slapped down again. Good. Thanks for the ping :-D

[Sabertooth]

Guess what, Sabertooth. I completely agree with you.

Uh, oh... My calendar says the 19th, not the 1st.

You drinkin' early?

[Egg]

We wouldn't need to control the border if companies would actually be investigated and prosecuted for hiring illegal immigrants. For instance, Tyson Foods was indicted for atively seeking Mexicans to come to the US illegally and work in Tyson plants. If such activity is provable, Tyson should have to re-establish the citizenship or immigration status of every one of its workers. But will the government make Tyson do so? Hardly! Immigration is a joke because there are too many open-border globalists who think everyone should have the right to live in a welfare state America.

[FITZ]

It's ridiculous spending any money on the WOD as long as the borders are wide open because Mexico uses illegals and legals to bring the drugs over. End the WOD and use that money to seal up the borders.

[jpsb]

Punish, fine and jail employers that employ illegal immigrants and the problem will go away in the blink of an eye.

[Tancredo Fan]

You say use the military like O'Rielly keeps harping on but the numbers are the same so we'd need half a million more military troops with probably 150 Billion dollars added to the defense budget?

There's more than one way to get rid of the problem. It seems to be working OK in Afghanistan. Remember, this invasion is deliberate. Perhaps you missed the venom the Marxist Mexican foreign minister has been spewing in California.

[skeeter]

Do a quick search using the words 'Kennedy' & 'immigration reform' to see how many worthless pieces of legislative crap have been passed on this issue.

Yep, Kennedy sure has been a reliable ally in the pursuit of a sensible immigration policy, ever since he sponsored the grandaddy of 'immigration reform' bills in '65.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

For $6 billion, we can build a 30-foot high, steel-reinforced concrete wall the entire 2,000-mile-length of the U.S./Mexico border. We wouldn't need a massive army for patrolling the border if we had a physical barrier. It is the same principle of a security fence around a factory with a few guards monitoring video cameras and other devices.

Fences and walls are as old as mankind and billions are still spent to build them because THEY WORK!

We don't have to re-invent the wheel here. We just have to use some common sense and acknowledge the overwhelming demand from the American people to stop illegal immigration into our country.

[bullmoose]

Any price-ANY-is worth paying in order to protect our nation. Bitching about dollars today will look pretty stupid in 50 yrs when our country has been changed from the great place that it is to a 3rd world toliet.

[Tauzero]

"He said that kind of thinking was not unique to Mexico and had led to weak border control by the INS and other government agencies.

This is scary stuff."

But natural. JBTs everywhere have more in common with each other than the people on whose necks their boots are planted.

[RickyJ]

President Bush supports the legislation and has described border security as one of his top priorities.

LOL!

[RickyJ]

You say use the military like O'Rielly keeps harping on but the numbers are the same so we'd need half a million more military troops with probably 150 Billion dollars added to the defense budget?

It's worth the cost to stop terrorist from sneaking nuclear wepons into our country. If you don't think it's worth the cost, then may your city be the first one hit.

[RCW2001]

For $6 billion, we can build a 30-foot high, steel-reinforced concrete wall the entire 2,000-mile-length of the U.S./Mexico border.

That's only 1 years worth of foreign aid we give to Egypt and Israel each and every year!

[RickyJ]

We wouldn't need to control the border if companies would actually be investigated and prosecuted for hiring illegal immigrants.

Ignorant statement by an ignorant egg.

We need border control to KEEP THE TERROIST OUT!

It doesn't matter if all employers immediately stopped hiring illegal aliens today, we STILL need border control!

[rintense]

Heheehe. Well, I can agree with your proposals, but I can also agree that President Bush hasn't done anything to give amnesty to ALL the illegals either... there is a fine line between fact and reaction. But we've been down that road before...

That said, your ideas are fine. I am all for making the borders secure and completely closed off.

[Kobyashi1942]

President Bush is the leading obstacle to controlling illegal immigration in this country and his "open door" border policy is a threat to national security, the Republican chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus said yesterday.

This bears repeating. If Bush is conciously promoting a policy that is a threat to National Security than logically Bush himself is a threat to the Nation's security.

Bush screams about protecting America yet does nothing about closing the door by which hundreds if not thousands of terrorits come into this nation every year.

[in_troth]

For $6 billion, we can build a 30-foot high, steel-reinforced concrete wall the entire 2,000-mile-length of the U.S./Mexico border.

LOL! Where do you put this "great wall" (that will make us look unbelievably silly) in the parts of the border that are defined by rivers? Right down the middle of the river, like an island?

[conserve-it]

BIG BUMP !!

[conserve-it]

I CANNOT IMPEACH YOUR LOGIC.

[WRhine]

"Mr. Tancredo said that during a recent meeting with top Mexican officials, he was told that Mexico does not view the Southwest United States and northern Mexico as two countries, but as "one region."...He said that kind of thinking was not unique to Mexico and had led to weak border control by the INS and other government agencies."

This is scary stuff.

It is especially scary when our president, Jorge Bush, knows that Mexico has such sentiments about the sovereignty of America's Southwest and choses to pursue his reckless open border policies anyway. Tancredo is right--Bush is THE PROBLEM.

[in_troth]

This bears repeating. If Bush is conciously promoting a policy that is a threat to National Security than logically Bush himself is a threat to the Nation's security.

That means, by his own logic, that Bush is AGAINST us, and therefore a terrorist! I predict Bush will plan an invasion of the US to overthrow the pres.

[WRhine]

Those are great ideas Sabertooth though I have to wonder what it would take to get them implimented.

[jpl]

John Ashcroft sure as hell does, but I'm not quite so sure about the President.

[PRND21]

Rep. Tom Tancredo is 100% right!

Sorry. Let's look at the FIRST sentence...

President Bush is the leading obstacle to controlling illegal immigration in this country...

False.
I suppose truth doesn't froth up the masses, eh Tom?

Buchcredo is a grandstanding fool.
Didn't he take credit for ending the "amnesty" problem a month ago?

[PRND21]

Tancredo would be ten times a better President we any we have ever had.

I smell a poster.