[Carry_Okie]

Nothing.

Thought so.

What does that have to do with anything?

LOL! It's San Francsico's graveyard!

Is there fraud? Yes. Was it enough for Bill Simon to have won? No, my take is that fraud statewide accounts for about two thirds of Davis' plurality, a couple of hundred thousand votes (perhaps twice that in a presidential election). If one throws in the Green vote, Simon lost enormously.

Still, there is vote fraud in San Francisco, as any native knows only too well (which is why I asked, seeing as I grew up there). If McClintock loses, it will have been the difference. This is to say nothing of the illegals in LA. You might want to ask Avoiding Sulla about that.

[liberallarry]

There's vote fraud everywhere...just as there's fraud of all kinds everywhere. I doubt that it's only the Democrats who engage in such things. What's important is its magnitude and the effect it has. In this case it had no effect on the governor's race and there's little evidence that it was greater than usual.

What is unusual these days is the closeness of the contests - which magnifies the effect of every vote.

[liberallarry]

Carrie_Okie recommended that I ask you about illegals voting in the L.A. area. So?