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Another Paternity Fraud case.(30% of Paternity tests prove children fathered by other men.)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^
| 12/23/2002
| By Kathy Boccella
Posted on 12/26/2002 8:34:04 AM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: End The Hypocrisy
Georgia just passed a law criminalizing Paternity Fraud as well.
To: whipitgood
The REAL LAW says, Thou shalt not commit adultery.Your "REAL LAW" -- number three -- also forbids you from working your slaves on the sabbath.
To: mombonn
>>>I know there are exceptions on either side, but the vast majority of these "adults" are behaving badly.<<<
I'd agree, if you'd replace the word "adults" with the word "mothers".
To: BuddhaBoy
"30% of Paternity tests prove children fathered by other men...."
As Yogi says..."90% of the game is half mental"
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:02:53 AM PST
by
TRY ONE
To: BuddhaBoy
Http://www.PaternityFraud.com is run by the abovementioned Carnell Smith of Georgia, who wants back-payments to which he's entitled. They just got a law enacted in Ga. but it apparently doesn't entitle him to the back payments.
To: BuddhaBoy
I'm glad I went and had a vasectomy after we were done having kids - if the wife ends up pregnant boy is she in trouble. :-)
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:04:23 AM PST
by
gura
To: xrp
One more reason why I plan to live and die as a single. Me too, brother.
There is nothing on this earth that would convince me to get married and have children in this society. I enjoy my freedom. I've never been in a court room for anything except for Jury duty, and I want to keep it that way.
Beyond that, single women are EVERYWHERE these days, so single in no way means lonely.
Someday, Vasectomies are going to be as popular as cosmetic surgery.
To: lelio; BuddhaBoy
>>>The title is a little misleading:
30% of Paternity tests prove children fathered by other men.
That's 30% of the cases that go to DNA / blood testing, not 30% of the whole population. <<<
The way he has written it seems clear enough to me. I have noticed, though, that some mothers or at least women in this forum get particularly nervous and antsy when the paternity fraud topic comes up, and they seek to find fault wherever they can...
To: BuddhaBoy
The only real solution is to mandate DNA testing at all births. That way, everyone is apprised of what is what.
To: mombonn
but the vast majority of these "adults" are behaving badly.Bad behaviour usually has consequences. So be it. Let the mothers who commit this fraud deal with it instead of rewarding them.
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:07:27 AM PST
by
Glenn
To: gura
I got mine years ago, without kids. I had my swimmers frozen for a rainy day, in case I decide to have a mini-me someday.
To: mombonn
Kids suffer because of this, but two wrongs dont make a right. They need to start going after the real fathers, and making them pay the child support through the surrogate, if that man wants to maintain a relationship.
To: BuddhaBoy
Just so men know their place in the world, remember this:
- Pro-choice only refers to the woman. The child and father have no rights.
- A pregnant woman can force a man to be a father, but a man cannot force a woman to be a mother. She may terminate a pregnancy at any time, but a man has no means of compelling her to save a child he wants.
- To some women you are worth nothing more than a donor and checkbook
- The courts do not really give a damn about the child or father
- The courts do not care if you are not the father once you have begun paying child support
- It is much easier to be declared an "unfit father" than an "unfit mother"
- As far as everyone else cares, there is no special bond between father and child. A child without a mother lives a tragic existence. A child without a father is going to be just fine
To: BuddhaBoy
I'd like to throw an example in here, a little twist, just for the sake of discussion on this pressing issue. Anyone may address, though it is directed first at BB.
Example: fortyish millionaire male with a lifetime of enjoyable serial monogamy with a number of concubines, contented enough, to share in his prosperity and his stated infertility.
His latest acquistition, rescued from a (maybe) abusive relationship, comes with her a girl child, not his biologically. Sort of a double rescue from life's Humane Society, supported in his household like a convenient combination of pet and personal appliance. My, and he does fancy himself the hero.
For about three years now, he's been playing Daddy. No marriage, but establishing a personal and familial bond, particularly in the lonely heart of this child. Promises of college. Enjoying himself immensely with the novelty but, alas, he bores easily. He will, I am sure, someday max out his quick fortune through self-indulgence, and this child is just another indulgence.
Tell me, upon his inevitable boredom with this arrangement, does he owe anything morally to this child, when he eventually sends her away? Legally would be something else entirely. Just curious. Does he just get to use her and send her back to the Pound? I'm not too interested in Mommy, here. Just the child plaything. BTW, this is a fertrue example.
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:12:40 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: End The Hypocrisy
I have noticed, though, that some mothers or at least women in this forum get particularly nervous and antsy when the paternity fraud topic comes up, and they seek to find fault wherever they can... Thanks for pointing that out. This subject does make some Freepers VERY uncomfortable. I wonder why?
To: dogbyte12
Your procedure seems fair to all. Hopefully, DNA testing can be made faster. I've heard 2-6 weeks - that's a long time with a new baby in the house and the father not knowing whether to bond or not. That sounds pretty awful. Also think automatic re-testing at a different lab should be done if the results don't match.
To: BuddhaBoy
No discomfort here, from this mommy and wife. My kids all look like Him. I assume you don't want only male responses to the issue you bring before FR?
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:22:34 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: mombonn
>>>Tell that to the poor kid that thought he was her father for 14 years. I'm not defending the disgusting behavior of the mother, but the poor kid doesn't deserve to be dumped at this stage of her life. Being a 14-year old girl is difficult enough without having this to deal with.<<<
Then that is all the more reason why duped dads should be allowed to walk upon learning they'd been deceived. It gives mothers the incentive to stay in contact with the REAL fathers, and not to perpetrate a fraud for years. If mothers give a rip about anyone but themselves, then this legal reform will give them a chance to prove it.
To: BuddhaBoy
>>>Georgia just passed a law criminalizing Paternity Fraud as well.<<<
What happens to the deceptive mother?
To: BuddhaBoy
California Gov. Gray Davis vetoed a paternity fraud bill, saying the measure would only delay child support collection and let some biological fathers wriggle out of parental responsibility.
Gray Davis logic! Determining who the child is somehow lets some biological fathers wriggle out of parental responsibility.
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:25:45 AM PST
by
gitmo
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