And, inevitably, someone else -- a culture WITH men -- will take over. To paraphrase a Russian saying, "In California, the optimists are learning Spanish, the pessimists are learning Arabic".
American women are getting very good at shooting themselves in the foot.
For all the bitter flames you get on this board for your sexual attitudes & behavior, I think that, deep down, you WISH you could be a nice guy, have an old fashioned marriage, etc., but you have decided that the character of modern women makes that too dangerous. It's ironic -- the howling banshees who condemn your ways, are the very reason WHY you adopted those ways! Just like Tom, your detractors do a great job of proving you right.
In my case, I chose to defy the culture and remain a nice, oldfashioned guy, despite the heavy punishment that modern women inflict on such a man. Somehow, by some miracle, at age 38 I finally landed a women who actually LIKED nice guys... otherwise I would be S.O.L. (The secret: find a girl whose Dad is a nice guy, yet strong enough not to inspire contempt. Girls with jerk fathers go for jerks, and so do girls whose fathers are too nice for their own good. The hierarchy is strength first, then niceness, and if forced to choose, they will always choose strength.)
But it is coming, because American women have alienated men from their natural role to the point where many of us have no use for them except as temporary sexual partners.
For those of us who religiously rule out casual sex, that means, we have no use for them AT ALL. (I was almost there before I found my wife -- if that courtship hadn't worked out, my next stop was overseas.) I'm afraid your conclusions are perfectly logical... which is not surprising for a 101 listener.
Thanks.
The flames I get are amusing to me. I have to admit a bit of satisfaction in the reactionary nature of it all. As you mentioned, much of it does prove exactly what I have been saying. Some calling me a woman-hater don't realize that it would be just as easy for me to carry on, without saying a word about just how easy it is to take advantage of women these days.
I would very much like to be considered a nice guy, but I know from experience and counsel that nice does not work for what I want from women today. Were I the slightest bit interested in marriage, I would look overseas as well before dealing with an American woman.
My 'religion' (Buddhism) has no problem with casual sex, as it isn’t really a religion in at all. When I started talking about these issues on this board, it was because I am just amazed at the plight for women today, having to choose between meaningless encounters, or men without backbone, without realizing that they are themselves responsible for their condition.
They don't want to hear that, because responsibility is something that most women avoid like the plague. I like to look at their situation as an outside observer, because it really is entertaining to observe, hence Tom’s popularity. Every night that I hit the town, is like a 101 fact-finding mission. The robotic responses that I observe from would fill a book.
Happy Holidays.
I think you've hit on something important. I've watched a lot of friends pick a lot of jerks (and vote for Clinton in their spare time). A good example to work with is much better than a bad example to avoid. My dad was great, and I'm telling my own daughter to "look for someone like Daddy" when she gets a little older.
It's a little easy to blame the feminists (and fun to do so as well) but I know so few gals with good fathering, and that's the serious answer. Maybe the men need to look in the mirror a little more often. Every lying slut had a father, sometime. And all these lying sluts who try to defraud these poor shnooks also have some guy in the background getting away with fraud.