"Former Boy Scout Leader Arrested — Homosexual Child Molestations Continue"

Traditional Values Coalition ^

[Qwerty]

"First of all there is no such thing as a homosexual, despite the "conventional wisdom"."

The dictionary says there is. The dictionary also lists male and female. So you get half credit. ;-) Also.. I never made the argument that it is genetic. How could I know?

Ah yes... the old "they bring it upon themselves" argument. "Well....yeah, pretty much. "

You're entitled. But I think it's a mechanism to enable yourself to irrationally loathe an entire group.

[webber]

Homosexual Pediphiles don't need to be demonized as you put, they're doing a damn good job on their own, Mary!

[Qwerty]

I missed this earlier...

"You have not kept "you private" and what I do in private is no one elses business so I have not made the manner in which someone does sex the issue."

If you notice, I never mentioned my sex life. Nor do I intend to.

"So you are gay, what does that have to do with this story."

Nothing. Another poster asked if I was gay. That's how it came up. I get the feeling you haven't read the entire thread.

[Qwerty]

I'm no gentleman. Also, I'm not trying to make subtle points. I think I put them right up front.

[Qwerty]

"Lady??? Makes no difference."

True... it doesn't for my argument. But at the very least it shows someone wasn't paying attention.

"Protection and promotion of homo-sexuality, regardless of the guise is reprehensible."

This is where we separate fact from opinion. That's your opinion.

"Last time that I was aware, it was an abomination practiced by both genders."

Just.. barely.. resisting the easy points.... ;-)

[Qwerty]

I was just giving you what the dictionary would tell you. Yes, it matters to people who they sleep with, but the essential act is the same. That's why there are not different terms.

I didn't say it wasn't a big deal to the individual. And you can break it down even further.. it's a big deal if you cheat on your wife or husband (most marriages, anyway), even if the cheating you do is heterosexual in nature.

Child molesters ARE doing something different. They have no consent.

[Qwerty]

I'm an afterthought you keep posting to... with things like whether I'm worth the time to post to.

BTW, I never flaunted anything.

[Qwerty]

"Reproduction?"

Well, I wasn't thinking of it, but yes. Some homosexuals DO engage in reproduction... artificially and also in the good old fashioned way.

"Hence the perversion."

I was only addressing the fact that many posters object to specific acts. As I said, heterosexuals also engage in the same acts.

As for pederasts hiding out in the church.. it makes sense to me. It probably seems like a good idea to some of them, since it will remove uncomfortable questions about why they never married. It's probably a magnet for all sorts of pedophiles.

[lawdude]

Running the gauntlet might be appropriate...if the lineup has machettes!

[Old Professer]

Dominant or submissive?

[Qwerty]

Your 30% statistics are VERY contested and debateable, if you just google search it. Before you ask me to refute it, it's your assertion so it's up to you to prove it. I'm not going to play "cite the study", because frankly I hate homework that can be done just as easily by anyone who is inclined.

As for the "straw man", it just gets implied often that we're all suspects, and part of some sort of secret homosexual cabal with certain nefarious goals. So I'm a bit overly sensitive. Sorry bout that.

[bmwcyle]

I'll take my chances with a man who can face a women in a relationship with young boys over a homosexual child in a man's body.

[Qwerty]

"I can't believe you kept your cool on this thread, despite the personal attacks."

LOL.. well.. I grew up in a political family in New Jersey. It's NOT an easy state to be Republican in. I learned very early on you can't take things personally.

"The funniest personal attack was the brouhaha about your moniker. HA!"

I know.. I've been anticipating that since I signed up.

Thank you for your very nice post. It's appreciated. :-)

[webber]

"The vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual. I'm not accusing you of being mean-spirited, but I just want to clear that up."

When 97.8% +/- 1% of the people are "heterosexual", it is logical that there are more heterosexual child molesters. But PERCENTAGE WISE the homosexual community out-distance the heterosexual community by a long shot. How many heterosexuals do you see demanding to become girl scout leaders, or join the girl scouts, and discovered that they are child molesters? Have you ever heard of a heterosexual group flaunting their rights to have sex with very young girls on the news casts? There's something deranged in the manner in which homosexuals flaunt/demand to have their way, the above mentioned groups is just the tip of the iceberg. Joining the priesthood just to be among boys is another. When a heterosexual involve themselves in child abuse, they do not for clubs and organization and demand to be accepted by the entire society that homosexual do.

[Qwerty]

I stand by my #3. Should it come up again, it would be a boring retread, but I'll still believe it.

Thanks for your advice though, as I think you are well meaning. :-)

[Qwerty]

"Nice try. I suppose Bush rhetoric is masquerading for desire to take the oil fields of Iraq and perhaps all of the Middle East."

Whoa there. Apples and oranges.

"When crime is committed against the children under the guise of non-discrimination, you better believe I will bring attention to it, and I don't care if you homosexuals are offended by it or not."

How has non-discrimination played a part in this? Pedophilia and pedarasty are still (and rightly so) VERY discriminated against. Aside from a very minute lunatic fringe, this is almost everyone's position, and certainly everyone's opinion that have posted here.

"I will ALWAYS side for the protection of children against sexual predation. I WILL SHOUT IT FROM THE HOUSETOPS!!"

Don't take my posts to mean I defend sexual predation, in any form, regardless of gender. But read the summary of this article.

[Qwerty]

Pedophilia is alive and well, apparently. But that does NOT mean that societal attitudes are changing, a few articles claiming otherwise aside. Do you know anyone willing to defend pedophilia? I certainly don't.

[Qwerty]

"Dominant or submissive?"

Not your concern.

[Qwerty]

"I'll take my chances with a man who can face a women in a relationship with young boys over a homosexual child in a man's body."

I've read this 4 times and I still don't understand it.