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The New Conservative Divide: Paleocons versus Neocons
AmericanDaily.com ^ | Mon Apr 21, 2003 | Rachel Alexander

Posted on 04/21/2003 8:55:51 AM PDT by new cruelty

The split between neoconservatives and paleoconservatives over the Iraq war goes deeper than many realize. Their differences on ethnic issues are threatening to become the biggest internal battle conservatives will face this decade.

Modern conservatism has generally encompassed multiple forms. Over the last half of the 20th century, each decade has contained at least two identifiable strains of conservatism. The 1950’s saw the onset of modern conservatism, beginning with William F. Buckley’s intellectual National Review, which established conservatism as a force against communism and its milder American counterpart, the New Deal. It was an international conservatism, unlike the establishment conservatism of the time, which was isolationist. In the 1960’s, conservatives divided over civil rights. A minority of conservatives rallied around the states’ rights position espoused by Barry Goldwater, particularly southerners motivated by their opposition to the civil rights movement. Their counterparts supported the Civil Rights Act, although they did not agree with other parts of the civil rights movement.

Neoconservatism emerged in the 1970s, as a reaction to the radical leftist agenda of the 1960’s. Neoconservatives were more interested in challenging the hippies and activists than dismantling the entrenched programs of the New Deal. Their conservative counterparts in the 1970’s were the John Birchers and Young Americans for Freedom, who refused to budge an inch in support of any program of the left, and who preferred Barry Goldwater or John Ashbrook for President over President Nixon. In the 1980’s, President Reagan successfully brought together social conservatives and business conservatives to form his base in the Republican party. By the 1990’s, those conservatives had merged to some extent, many of them becoming Rush Limbaugh conservatives who supported both the economic and social agenda of the Republican revolution in 1994. Frustrated by the compromising of the new Republican leaders, particularly the capitulation of Newt Gingrich, a drift to the libertarian right emerged, which had already begun with the founding of the Republican Liberty Caucus in 1990.

As the first decade of the 2000’s progresses, it is becoming increasingly clear that the two types of conservatism that will define this decade are neoconservatism and paleoconservatism. The war in Iraq has brought out a deep division between the two philosophies, exemplified by paleoconservatism opposition to the conservative Bush administration’s intervention into Iraq.

Paleoconservatism is defined in the American Heritage Dictionary as, “extremely stubborn or stubbornly conservative in politics.” The term paleoconservative actually originated fairly recently, in the Rockford Institute’s Chronicles magazine, as a reaction to what was seen as increasing neocon encroachment into conservatism. Palecons claim that their brand of conservatism is the true descendant of conservative thought of the 1950’s and 1960’s. Paleocons prefer an isolationist foreign policy, and accuse neocons of being interventionist and soft on big government programs. Neoconservative is defined as an intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the liberalism of the 1960’s. Paleocons tend to believe that most conservatives today and over the past couple of decades are neocons.

What may really be the primary and underlying source of division between the two philosophies is their approach towards Israel. Since Israel was established in 1948, U.S. policy has generally been one of preserving Israel’s stability in the Middle East. Most conservatives have historically aligned themselves with this position for varying reasons. Some saw the state as compensation for the displaced Jews after their slaughter in the Nazi holocaust. Others saw it as a bastion of democracy to be supported amongst the Arab authoritarian regimes as a check on their spread and power. Many Christians supported the existence of a strong Jewish state because of their close relationship with the Jewish people theologically as the chosen people, their reverence for the Jews as the inhabitants of the Holy Land in Biblical times, and Biblical prediction that the Jewish people will eventually return to the Holy Land.

Yet, ironically, it is now primarily Christian conservatives who make up the paleocons opposing aid to Israel. Instead of seeing Jews as fellow kindred, these Christians see Jews as hostile to Christianity, and therefore are less inclined to support Israel. Instead of welcoming Jews – who have generally been considered solidly liberal - into the Republican party, many paleocons are suspicious of their intentions. Paleocons accuse the Republican party of being overrun by neocons, and many paleocons believe that Jewish conservatives are behind this. The accusations have gotten quite touchy, with many paleocons accusing Jewish conservatives of using anti-Semitic accusations to bully their way around and push their own agenda. Of course, when paleocon Pat Buchanan throws around phrases like, “Congress is Israeli-controlled territory,” there is an argument that can be made that a remark like that could be construed as anti-Semitic.

Many anti-Israel paleocons are using the Iraq war as an opportunity to speak out not just against the war, but to accuse conservatives and President Bush of supporting the war because the neocons, who they claim are dominated by Jews, are in favor of it. However, this argument is flawed in several aspects. First and most obvious, not only neocons supported the war. Most conservatives supported the war, some even more adamantly than the neocons, such as military, law enforcement, and certain social conservatives. Secondly, most conservatives are not “neocons,” unless the term is broadly defined to include any conservative who is not anti-interventionist, which is how some paleocons seem to be defining it. The standard definition of neocon only encompasses a small percentage of conservatives; most conservatives did not become conservative only in reaction to the 1960’s, and most still resent big government; they would be quite happy if welfare completely disappeared. Paleocons tend to overemphasize neocon approval of the welfare state. In reality, it would probably be more accurate to say that conservative politicians support a welfare state, whereas common conservatives are less likely to support it. Thirdly, the number of conservative Jews is still small. Only 20% of American Jews voted for President Bush, actually down from the 35% who voted for Reagan in 1988, and only 8% of Jews consider themselves “conservative,” as opposed to 26% of non-Jews. And although there are a handful of well-known Jewish conservatives, their presence is slight compared to the numbers of non-Jewish conservative leaders. None of the Bush administration’s cabinet-level appointees are Jewish.

What is interesting about this latest split between conservatives is that no longer is the debate between the “moderates” and “right wingers” like it has been frequently in the past. Now it is primarily an ethnic debate, focusing on U.S. attitudes towards ethnic and racial groups within and outside of the U.S. And instead of being sidelined to the pages of history books, Pat Buchanan, former Presidential candidate and leader of the social conservative isolationist right, is leading the paleocons in this attack on what they see as the neocon takeover of conservatism. Buchanan’s new magazine, The American Conservative, claims that conservative organizations such as the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, and the magazine National Review, have been taken over by neocons. However, paleocon views have become more popular since 9/11, since Americans are much more fearful of terrorists entering the country, and so are more willing to tighten down on immigration laws and the borders. Furthermore, the paleocons are not completely marginalized, they count among their numbers several respected intellectual heavyweights, including the Rockford Institute, LewRockwell.com, and to some degree, the paleolibertarian Ludwig von Mises Institute.

The future of conservatism depends on how these two factions cooperate. Unlike past divisions between conservatives, this division will only increase, because the ethnic diversity within the U.S. keeps increasing, and Israel’s stability in the Middle East keeps declining. What most conservatives do not realize, and are not prepared to address, is that ethnic-related issues are going to be the crucial problem facing them this decade. At the present moment, conservatism appears unified, because the paleocons were not able to thwart the intervention into Iraq, probably because their numbers are still too few. After all, according to a recent ABC news poll, an overwhelming 81% of Americans believe it was right to go to war with Iraq, and 60% believe that it was right even if no weapons of mass destruction are ever found. But resentment is building, and as long as the paleocons are convinced that conservatism has been hijacked, they will not stop their assault.

Rachel Alexander is an attorney practicing commercial and administrative law in Phoenix, Arizona. She is the editor of IntellectualConservative.com, and writes articles for various e-zines.


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KEYWORDS: antiwarright; neocons; paleocons
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To: Huck
I am starting a new group. Nouveau-cons. I am not sure what we stand for yet, but I'm working on it.

How about that most elusive group, the Soup-çons? Conservatives with a just a hint of mint.

141 posted on 04/21/2003 8:04:38 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: philosofy123
The division is going to get wider as the neocons tradionally support abortion, bans on gun ownership, racial politics of quotas,...

They won't win those battles. I suspect they already know the tide has turned on many of these hotbutton conservative planks. I see their stance on these as part of the Left/liberal baggage that the old Commie Left kept when it became the neo-conservative Right.

Despite strong performance recently, the neo-cons bear watching closely. They may become the mainstream of conservatism and the GOP but that will be a number of years from now, probably five to ten. We need to see some of the original neo-cons retire and stop sucking up the available oxygen so we can evaluate what they really created, if anything, as a permanent political legacy.
142 posted on 04/21/2003 8:05:58 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: rmlew
Not all paleo-cons are anti-Semites.

Agreed.

I support protecting industries from dumping, but not to guarantee profits (with some considertion for national defense items). Abolish all taxes and institute a NRST - defund the politicians and special interests. I oppose wide open-immigration, and oppose immigration amnesty (rewarding criminals), and the ability to speak ENGLISH should be a requirement for naturalization. Those that seek to settle here should understand that America is not their former homeland, nor should they attempt to transform it (or why leave?) understanding that, I have no problem welcoming those that seek to better themselves. I support immediate withdrawal from the socialist UN. I oppose financial aid to ANY country or special interest group. Abide by the limited powers delegated to the federal government. Defend America 1st.

#1 Paleoconservative
#2 Libertarian
#3 Left-libertarian
#4 Paleo-libertarian
#7 Conservative
#8 Neo-conservative

143 posted on 04/21/2003 8:14:04 PM PDT by 4CJ (Margaritas ante Porcos)
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To: new cruelty
I am neither. I guess I need to find a new party.
144 posted on 04/21/2003 8:16:51 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Hoppean
And except for Israel and Great Britain, considering the Cold War is over, this is a problem how again? The neocons were useful for a time, to get rid of communism. However they have overstayed their usefulness and it's time for the conservative party to return to conservative values, such as the national government starting to follow the principles set forth in the Constitution and quit meddling in every other nation's business
145 posted on 04/21/2003 8:17:00 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
#1 Paleocon
#2 Paleolib
#3 Conservative
#6 Neocon
#10 Third Way

BTW, what in the heck is Third Way?

146 posted on 04/21/2003 8:22:18 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
BTW, what in the heck is Third Way?

LOL - I haven't the foggiest. Clicking on the link in the test results brings up "The NewRepublic Online"

147 posted on 04/21/2003 8:29:31 PM PDT by 4CJ (Margaritas ante Porcos)
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To: billbears
'... it's time for the conservative party to return to conservative values, such as the national government starting to follow the principles set forth in the Constitution and quit meddling in every other nation's business.'

Bump on all counts.

148 posted on 04/21/2003 8:30:36 PM PDT by 4CJ (Margaritas ante Porcos)
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To: billbears
You're right, it's not a problem. I was just stating it as a fact, not a criticism. I have no desire to see the U.S. defending Taiwan or Kashmir or East Overshoe. It always struck me as weird (and wrong) that Americans pay their money and sometimes their lives defending people overseas who the Constitution doesn't cover, who don't pay any taxes, who often have nothing in common linguistically or culturally with Americans, and who probably wouldn't return the favor anyway. I agree with you. America, come home.
149 posted on 04/21/2003 8:39:29 PM PDT by Hoppean
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To: stuartcr
Why this obsession on labels? Is it for statistical purposes?

The only change I have seen over the past eight years -- ever since Newt Gingrich got his butt kicked -- is that some conservatives are now more cautious and want to do things incrementally. If one who believes in this new cautions incremental approach is now labeled a Neocon then I think the Paleocon and Neocon labels are a bunch of BS.

Freedom is freedom!

150 posted on 04/21/2003 8:40:28 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: My2Cents
I prefer the word "principled", not willing to forego integrity for quick but meaningless gains whose end result is the party moving even farther left. Kinda like is happening now.
151 posted on 04/21/2003 8:41:22 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: rmlew
Some paleos woke up on 9-11-01.

It gets complicated. If the terrorists hadn't been allowed to immigrate here in the first place and weren't given full access to everything here, and if all the many warning signs that Arabs were planning attacks against Americans on US soil hadn't been ignored, 9-11 wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have needed these Middle East wars.

152 posted on 04/21/2003 8:41:42 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: wrbones
That's the same result I got too.
153 posted on 04/21/2003 8:59:38 PM PDT by afuturegovernor
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To: billbears
It's a term coined by Tony Blair I believe.
154 posted on 04/21/2003 9:03:12 PM PDT by afuturegovernor
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To: new cruelty
Yet, ironically, it is now primarily Christian conservatives who make up the paleocons opposing aid to Israel.

There are so many untrue statements here, I hardly know where to begin. I'm a Paleo, yet I support Israel.

I also supported the War on Terror and the War on Iraq.

The only Paleo-Conservatives I know that feel differently are the Libertarians, and they're idealists. I have nothing in common with them. Mentally, they live in the 1800s.

But as bad as they are, I have more in common with them than I do the Neocons. There is no difference between a Neo of today and a Democrat of yesterday. No difference.
155 posted on 04/21/2003 9:10:07 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: stuartcr
I think the elite use the names and presume we are too ignorant to figure it out.
156 posted on 04/21/2003 9:29:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: new cruelty
The idea of dividing the conservatives must have the Democrats licking their chops!
157 posted on 04/21/2003 10:40:09 PM PDT by WaterDragon (Only America has the moral authority and the resolve to lead the world in the 21st Century.)
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To: Hoppean; Black Agnes
There is a clash of civilizations and ideologies here.
Islamists wish to conquer the world.
The Chinese Communist wish to dominate central asia and the pacific. They continue to work with communists in Latin America.
You might wish to retreat before these threats, or even pretend that we will never be threatened. I do not. Oceans are of little use in defending against assymetric warfare.

The clash is inevitable. Thus we should ensure that our enemies remain weak and disunited. If we are lucky, we can destroy the ideolgoies that push the conflict. We cannot be complacent.

Ron

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. -- Sir Winston Churchill

158 posted on 04/21/2003 11:19:03 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Clemenza
OK, I am a libertarian on domestic issues (although I endorse some government programs at THE MOST LOCAL LEVEL POSSIBLE)
Federalism allows for this. If New Yorkers support activist government, then let it be in NY, not the whole country. If you don't like it, move.

and a believer in Kissingerian Real Politik on foreign policy issues (although admittedly, my idea of "containment" sometimes involves "containing" our enemies to the graveyard).

The problem with Real Politik is that it fails to take into account the nature of regimes and the role of ideology and culture. Moreover, Rp and game theory always assume rational actors. Humans are not all that rational in real life and they have different cultural and political assumptions. Take a look at Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il.

I despise the Neocons "crusade for global democracy"
I'm all for it if they want to go on political missionary activity. I just have no desire to try to conquer the world. However, they really should read Burke.

and squishiness toward shrinking government
They do seem enamored with TR Progressivism.

yet view the Paleocons as a cult a few kool-aids short of Jonestown who would turn our economy into that of Ba'ath-era Iraq.
I see them as the French Right in the 1930's.

I disagree with both on immigration, finding the neocons "open borders" policy dangerous and the Paleocon's "lets limit immigration to French LePen supporters" philosophy to be unrealistic.

We aren't going to restrict immigration based on race anymore. Even if we tried the 1923 act, we would get the Third Worlders from Europe, not the Europeans.
i figure that we can handle 300-500,000 immigrants per year of an nationality. We just need to keep numbers and density low to allow for assimilation.
We should also stop government anti-natalist programs like the Malthusian agitprop taught in schools. (i was actually taugh that China's 1-child policy was a good thing.)If American women have >=2.1 children we are in fine shape.

159 posted on 04/21/2003 11:35:15 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I support protecting industries from dumping, but not to guarantee profits (with some considertion for national defense items).
Ensuring that items are not made with slave labor would be a nice step. God only knows how many toys and knicknacks are made in Logai or how much clothing is made in Chinese work facilities in the Marianas.

Abolish all taxes and institute a NRST - defund the politicians and special interests.

I'd like to be 6'4, not going to happen.

Defend America 1st.

I believe that the best defense is a good offense.

160 posted on 04/21/2003 11:40:42 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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