Posted on 04/28/2012 5:36:53 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
I posted this up in News/Activism because it is a call to activism, and therefore seemed to me to fit the bill.
This is a "caucus" thread - if you're a pro-Romney whiner, then go find another thread. This one is for conservatives who want to do something about the election besides hang our heads and timidly thump a tub for Mittens.
I've intended this thread to hang around for a while so that we can throw ideas back and forth and start trying to network, etc. If you're really interested in organizing for action, please feel free to join in. If you want to hang back and not get actively involved, well, feel free to join in or lurk too.
Thanks, Yashcheritsiy
You write as though you know the facts, yet there is still time remaining. Something unseen can happen. Is your ego so big that you must speak as though you are a wise know it all?
There are only two events that could possibly derail Romney's path to the Republican nomination: Personal tragedy or getting caught in a seriously illegal and/or immoral breech of conduct. I'm not going to wish for tragedy on anyone and Mitt Romney strikes me as the type of guy who has most likely kept his nose clean in his personal life.
There you have it.
I have waited for almost 4 years praying for the seen and the unseen to unseat Barack Hussein Obama.
The only thing that will unseat him now is an election, and he may not even go away with that.
It is delusional to “hope” some miracle will happen, but you see, the electorate will not be amply prepared to make an overnight surge way to the right as we would want them to.
It will take hard work and working from the bottom up. Maybe years.
Getting our way won’t happen unless we work for it. An election alone is not the answer.
Stopping the bleeding before the patient dies is about all we got.
That may be so, however I'm not under the delusions continuous voting for the establishment Republicrat will result in any real change to the course this nation is on....certainly Romney won't...he's having "his turn" and I will not support him nor this bogus election.
Who is to say this isn't all orchestrated for the Republicans to take the fall as this nation topples, and the Demcorates would have the Rep's clean up their mess, only to come in after the work is done and claim the Glory?
Possible as strange things have happened throughout this Primary....and there is still time before we vote. I don't think any should determine absolutely before the time is there we cast our vote......If the equation remains as it is currently though....I will not be voting for Romney nor Obama..but straight conservative down ticket or as close as possible.
Why would he look better to the voters if he was ???
Romney is the nominee. Period. Mitt has no competition remaining (and was still winning the nomination even with competitors). Newt has quit the race and will officially drop out and endorse Romney this upcoming week. Again, Romney is the nominee. A good first step to organizing is to not bury your head in the sand. You can pray, hope, cross your fingers, etc, and it won't make one iota of difference - Romney is still going to be the nominee. Once you accept reality, then you will be better able to decide how you want to be politically active going forward.
Who is to say this isn't all orchestrated for the Republicans to take the fall as this nation topples, and the Demcorates would have the Rep's clean up their mess, only to come in after the work is done and claim the Glory?
All I can say is to this comment is WOW. Not a nice WOW, but a WOW for delusional thinking.
I don't know what you think is being accomplished by you and your band of lemmings, but I will assure you this, you will not make any permanent change with your approach. To make permanent change you need people like myself, and yes I am conservative, to join your action.
I can assure you that it will be a cold day in hell before I join forces with a group of people who are willing to sell our country down the river in this election.
There are only two events that could possibly derail Romney’s path to the Republican nomination: Personal tragedy or getting caught in a seriously illegal and/or immoral breech of conduct
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Personel wont stop the egotistical high priest Willard Mitt Romney from running...
it didnt in 2008 and it wont now
back then his wife was sicker than she is now and he wouldnt stay home with her
People critized Santorum for rumnning with an ill family member in the house at home
Funny how knowbody said anything to Willie Mitty
even when he dragged his poor wife onto a TV interview and declared Oh yes shes sick but I’m going to be out on the campaign trail anyway...
Nothing short of personal death will keep him at home...
How serious must the crime/sin he gets caught in be ???
Hes hot the most lily white candidate that ever ran for the GOP nod...
Beinbg a lifetime pusher of the murder of innocent unborn babies is about the worse a guy can get...
Its immoral...
and he thinks abortion OK back when it was illegal...
Like 1970 when his liberal mother ran for US senate on a pro-abortion platform..
and yet hes OK in your book...
to the point that you protect him against Christian Conservative FReepers who merely expose his left leaning stances..
Evil will be called good and good will be called evil...
It can if it conveys actual information instead of a bunch of pie in the sky. The solution is real simple. Get and stay involved in Republican party politics. Begin at the town/local/precinct level and get as many other like minded people active with you. This is a ground up project, not a top down one. It isn't easy, it takes a lot of actual effort (beyond sitting behind a keyboard), it may require years of hard work to shift ones sphere of influence in the right direction, but it is the only thing that will actually help change things.
All this blather about starting new party's, voting for an existing 3rd party, writing in candidates, raging at the GOP establishment, etc, may feel good but it accomplishes exactly nothing. People do the same thing every 4 years and it will all come to nothing.
Want to make a difference? Get involved. Get involved in Republican party activities/politics at the local level and help push the party in a more conservative direction. You'd be surprised how few people actually get involved. Wonder why the establishment usually gets its way? Simple. Because too many good conservatives sit around bellyaching instead of actually doing something.
Quit with the fantasies of new party's, victorious 3rd party's, overthrowing the GOP at the convention, some White Knight to ride in steal all Romney's delegates, etc. None of this nonsense is going to happen. Get involved, stay involved, go to party meetings, use your influence to push the party to the right, get your friends and family involved, go to town council meetings, vote in all elections including primaries, etc. THAT is how you make an actual difference.
Mitt has no competition remaining
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Willie Mitty will always have himself as competition...
he cant beat his evil past political and social decisions...
they hang there like a spectre
Oh, stuff it. I'm not going to partake in the reelection of Barack Obama.
No. There is no possibility of that.
The nomination is secured by winning delegates. Romney will easily have all the delegates he needs to win on the first ballot. Period.
'Previous choices' must have their results....A refusal to vote for the conservative who was still running and had the tools and ability to destroy those who are taking this country down, has brought this election to where it stands now. Foolish people who had little understanding of the Gop game plan...and simply believed their vote would make a difference... without understanding the game.
Further........"A vote 'against something' is an act of desperation and weakness...... 'It legitimizes a system' of comparative justifications,.... where superficial or even reactionary policies and institutions are defended solely on the grounds that the immediately available alternative is worse........it isn't reason enough for an act of speech and consent, ( which is our vote), that puts force and legitimacy behind a candidate or a set of policies that I wholeheartedly disagree with.
I won't be bullied into voting for Romney because otherwise the boogieman will come and get me in the night.... I won't see men and women, I lent my voice and consent to, do things destructive to all which I value of life and all the once great things of our nation..Again!....not going to happen.
Now you are certainly free to sign onto Romney and thereby supporting his platform ...you have that right of course....I will not sign onto to the further destruction of our nations values and principles by either Romney nor Obama.
That simply is not true. Each person does what they are capable of doing, and there are far more Freepers actively involved then you apparently are willing to credit... ....your assessment couldn't be more wrong.
We don't come to FR to broadcast about our activities...though if our guys make the news and report from where they are this is great!....we come here to be informed and use the good minds and hearts of Freepers to equip us better to go out and do what and where we have determined is our place in these election cycles. And when the Primary draws to an end we come back to FR to discuss further what is possible in changing the way things tend to go.
What most realize is doing the same thing over and over has not changed the outcome hoped for.....so this discussion needs to be....and rather than disrupt it...how about offering some 'Different' suggestions rather than the same old drumbeat heard every year and time and again...it's not working!
The trajectory for that to happen seems about dried up now...which is one of the reasons Romney went before the RNC and stated his win prematurely. At all costs the GOP did not want this to go to convention....you notice there was no outcry from any that he took this step. And clearly showed the fix is well in.
Santorum stopping just before Pa was also a strong indicator, he wasn't about to take another loss in PA and was headed for just that...it would have done in him for the career path he's determined to go...and he's still holding out his delegates for the GOP in case this does move in some unforeseen way...in order to secure Romney...and his own political ambitions
Those arguing against Romney have gone from misguided, to Naive, to pouting children, to unpatriotic people who support Obama. Sadly they are serious. The “system” is a sacred cow that must not be gored.
5 posts, they were pretty slow on the draw.
'Previous choices' must have their results....A refusal to vote for the conservative who was still running and had the tools and ability to destroy those who are taking this country down, has brought this election to where it stands now. Foolish people who had little understanding of the Gop game plan...and simply believed their vote would make a difference... without understanding the game.
Further........"A vote 'against something' is an act of desperation and weakness...... 'It legitimizes a system' of comparative justifications,.... where superficial or even reactionary policies and institutions are defended solely on the grounds that the immediately available alternative is worse........it isn't reason enough for an act of speech and consent, ( which is our vote), that puts force and legitimacy behind a candidate or a set of policies that I wholeheartedly disagree with.
I won't be bullied into voting for Romney because otherwise the boogieman will come and get me in the night.... I won't see men and women, I lent my voice and consent to, do things destructive to all which I value of life and all the once great things of our nation..Again!....not going to happen.
Now you are certainly free to sign onto Romney and thereby supporting his platform ...you have that right of course....I will not sign onto to the further destruction of our nations values and principles by either Romney nor Obama.
Sorry but that long and wordy answer doesn't ring true, especially the part about not signing onto further destruction of our nation by not voting.
In fact that is exactly what you are doing by not voting for Romney and by defacto voting for Obama.
Put it in any words you want, that is the truth.
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