Skip to comments.Michael Reagan: Dad Would Approve: Ryan is Romney's 'First Great Move'
Posted on 08/11/2012 2:57:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Ronald Reagan would approve of Mitt Romneys choice for a vice presidential running mate if he were alive today, his son, Michael told Newsmax, as he called Paul Ryan's selection the Republican hopefuls first great move.
Reagan, a Newsmax contributor added in an exclusive interview on Saturday that I hope its the first of many great moves.
He said that Wisconsin budget hawk Ryan will be able to stand toe-to-toe with President Barack Obama on key issues and will be a tremendous asset to a Romney administration with his expertise as chairman of the House Budget Committee.
It shows that Mitt Romneys willing to go outside the box of the normal and reach out and grab someone who really gets and understands whats going on with the economy and how to fix it, said Reagan.
He anticipates that Ryan will also breathe new life into the campaign, which had been struggling to regain momentum in recent weeks. Its going to really infuse some excitement and a lot of excitement probably within the conservative ranks, he said.
Following the long and bitter primary struggle, some on the right have felt disconnected from Romneys campaign. The decision to choose such a prominent conservative will undoubtedly resonate well with the right, according to Reagan.
We all knew that he had to figure out a way to reach out to conservatives. What he did with this was show that he wants a vice president that can be an active vice president. He said Ryan fits the bill and is "not just a vice president whos going to have lunch with him once a week, visit other countries, go to funerals, and sit in the Senate.
Reagan said the choice was reminiscent of his fathers Kitchen Cabinet back in the 1980s...
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My husband was hoping and praying that Rubio would get it, but Ryan was his second choice. He’s really happy about it.
It shows that Mitt Romneys willing to go outside the box of the normal and reach out and grab someone who really gets and understands whats going on with the economy and how to fix it, said Reagan.”
I agree. I think Ronald would approve of Paul as the VP pick.
Even though Senator Rubio is not a natural born citizen? Neither is Governor Jindhal, for that matter.
Laughing to myself at how the idiot Ron Reagan Jr. probably goes around telling people “My Dad would have been a 100 percent Obama supporter...”.
Once again the bottom of the ticket is better than the top. It is an adequate choice.
No ‘pandering’ to hispanics(or women). We are not backing down with this pick. Biden cannot ‘scoff’ at his opponent like Lloyd Benston did with Quayle. I just don’t see how this country can re-elect the incumbent unless we’ve turned far leftward. If that’s the case we get what we deserve.
When you have a marshmallow at the top of the ticket, ANYTHING is an improvement. I have/had immense respect for President Reagan but am not sure he would agree with his son. We will see!
Ryan is an excellent choice for Veep. I just wish that we had someone else running for Prez. (sigh!)
I read a post at another site that essentially said that our side(Romney/Ryan) needs to put all their chips on the table regarding the state of the economy. And then to articulate this message in a way that any voter could understand. No more sugar coating the truth.
Then, if Obama still wins, the people will have made their choice.
I probably didn’t articulate this well.
“Even though Senator Rubio is not a natural born citizen? Neither is Governor Jindhal, for that matter.”
You need to check your facts. They are both natural citizens. Rubio was born in Miami. Jindal was born in Baton Rouge. Their parents were immigrants from other countries.
They couldn’t legally be VP or President if they weren’t natural citizens - oh, sorry, unless you are the Messiah.
Neither set of parents were US citizens at the time of their birth. Yes, they are US citizens, no they are not natural born citizens, which is what it takes to be president or vice president, except when your name is Obama.
>>I probably didnt articulate this well.
Better than I could have!
You don’t know what natural born citizen means!
Their parents’ status was irrelevant!
Jindal and Rubio were citizens the moment they were naturally born in this country.
That’s our law, sir.
And why are you trying to disparage them because of their parents?
Seriously? We’ve been having this discussion since 2007 and you still haven’t gotten the word? And how am I disparaging their parents or them by stating a fact? I wish I had a $5 bill for every thread where we discussed this, there’d be a new car in my driveway.
You might want to check the Constitution. Naturalized citizen has been in there for 235 years.
And answer my question. What does that this have to do with anything?
Are Jindal and Rubio worth 1/2 an American?
I’m sorry, but you’re sounding really idiotic - and bigoted.
Can somebody help diamond6? I’m tired.
My father was born in the United States of America in the 1930s. His parents and grandparents came to the United States from Italy in 1905.
My father was not eligible to be President of the United States (not that he ever wanted to be) because his dad was not a citizen of the United States.
2ndDivisionVet is correct!
Correction: His dad was a citizen but not a NBC.
I didn’t say the parents weren’t eligible!
I said Marco Rubio and Bobbhy Jindal are!
He is not correct! They are both naturalized citizens, and that’s why they could be president or VP.
Maybe you should take a citizen course. I’m sorry you’re so tired.
Again, answer the question!
Why are you denigrating Jindal and Rubio?
It’s a simple question.
I was not talking about the parents. I was talking about the son of the parents.
Nobody’s “denigrating” Jindal and Rubio anymore than I “denigrated” my dad. The law is the law.
So am I.
Am I speaking another language?
He said that Marco and Bobby are not natural born citizens. That’s false!
I started my “citizen course” on June 12, 1978 at Basic Combat Training, Company C, 1st Battalion, 3rd Brigade, Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. Good enough for you?
I think your contorting the term natural born citizen just a tad.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Personally, I'm shocked. I'm guessing that the powers that be don't think the NBC issue is important enough to have to provide cover to Hussein this election.
They are probably right, because Mitt sure isn't going to say anything.
We read the Constitution. We question your ability to define “natural born citizen.”
I guess I didn’t learn anything from my conservative Constitutional Law professor in law school, or my U.S. History teacher in high school
Here’s what the 14th amendment says about who is a citizen: “All persons born or naturalized into the United States and subject to the juridiction thereof, are citizens of hte United States and other State in which they reside.”
Translation: If you are born in this country, you are automatically a citizen. That is, a “natural born citizen”. Capiche?
If that wasn’t the case, how could Jindal or Rubio even be considered for Vice President, since they would not be able to be President?
It is true that their parents were not “natural born citizens”. In fact, I don’t know if they were ever made citizens. That has no impact on Bobby or Marco are not natural born citizens.
So, again. What relevance does this have to anything? Are you assuming Bobby and Marco couldn’t be President? Or are they less than citizens who’s parents have been here longer?
I would, but I don't care enough to. Anyone reading this site for any length of time would have seen the facts by now on multiple occations. Facts don't mean anything if you're not willing to learn.
Correction: The parents status has no impact on Bobby and Marco’s becoming “natural born citizens”.
I guess the 14th Amendment means nothing. Read post above.
Well, as we all are painfully aware, it certainly never stopped the Kenyan Marxist or his goosestepping party.
How can a lawyer get “naturalized” and “natural born” mixed up? I doubt that I’ve ever been inside a law school, but I get that. Yes, they might be “citizens” but no, they are NOT natural born citizens. Sen. Rubio and Gov. Jindahl are ineligible because their parents were not US citizens at the time of their birth. We’ve been over and over and over this for four years.
You are totally confused -
NATURAL BORN CITIZEN - born on US soil to US citizen parentS.
NOTE - parentS have to be US citizens at time of the child’s birth in USA - parents can be natural born citizens or naturalized citizens.
If 1 or both parents is not US citizen at time of the child’s birth in USA, then the child is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and cannot be the president or VP.
Natural born citizen is citizen by ‘nature’ (i.e. by place and by parentage). No law can make someone a natural born citizen.
Natural born citizen has UNdivided loyalty to USA.
Obama, Rubio, Jindal, with non-US citizen parent(s), are dual citizens (USA and Kenya, USA and Cuban, USA and India) and have divided loyalty.
NATURALIZED CITIZEN - some one who becomes a US citizen by law - some one who was born outside USA to non-USA parents can be ‘naturalized’ in USA to be a Naturalized US citizen.
Naturalized citizens are NOT natural born citizens, and cannot be the president or VP.
This is in the US constitution. This is NOT about disparaging the parents.
Now, I’m tired.
Obviously, you’re a product of the public school system. You’ve just illustrated why we need to change things.
I guess you know better than Romney and everybody else making these decisions.
I give up.
Here’s some reading material
I don’t where the source of your definition of “natural born citizen” comes from, but it’s not the law.
I refer you to post #34 and the 14th amendment, which actually did define it.
I rest my case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_interpretation per US State Department 7 FAM 1131.6-2 Eligibility for Presidency (TL:CON-68; 04-01-1998) >
a. It has never been determined definitively by a court whether a person who acquired U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens is a natural-born citizen within the meaning of Article II of the Constitution and, therefore, eligible for the Presidency.
b. Section 1, Article II, of the Constitution states, in relevant part that ―No Person except a natural born Citizen...shall be eligible for the Office of President.‖
c. The Constitution does not define "natural born". The ―Act to establish an Uniform Rule of Naturalization‖, enacted March 26, 1790, (1 Stat. 103,104) provided that, ―...the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born ... out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States
d. This statute is no longer operative, however, and its formula is not included in modern nationality statutes. In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes.
‘Translation: If you are born in this country, you are automatically a citizen. That is, a natural born citizen. Capiche?’
If you are born in this country, you are a US citizen, but you are not necessarily a natural born citizen.
All natural born citizens are US citizens,
but not all US citizens are natural born citizens.
If you are born in US to US citizen parentS, you are a nbc (of course, you are a US citizen too.) eligible to be the president or vp.
If you are just a US citizen but not a nbc you are not eligible to be the president or vp.
2-prong test for Natural born citizen - born in USA, to USA citizen parentS.
Anybody can be ‘naturalized’ in US to be a naturalized US citizen by following the naturalization procedure, but a naturalized US citizen is NOT eligible to be the president or vp
You didn’t go to public schools? Prep schools, perhaps? I have a masters, same as you (no, a JD is NOT considered a doctorate) and can count to twenty without taking my shoes off, barrister.
>> Obviously, youre a product of the public school system. Youve just illustrated why we need to change things.
How is that relevant to the interpretation of the Constitution?
14th amendment citizen is NOT natural born citizen.
14 amendment citizen is citizenship by statute or law, therefore is NOT natural born citizen!
Remember, if you need the law to give you US citizenship, you are not a natural born citizen.
Natural - nature - by place and by parentage.
There are 4 supreme court cases defining nbc as one born on US soil to US citizen parents.
Numerous historical letters define nbc.
The founders used extensively Vattel’s ‘The Law of Nations’ that defines nbc as one born on US soil to US citizen parentS.
Congress has tried numerous times to change the definition of nbc but failed every time.
In obama’s own resolution 511, they ‘resolved’ that John McCain is a nbc since his parents were US citizens at time of his birth and he was born on US military base outside of US. (actually he was born in Panama under Panamanian jurisdiction and so he is not article 2 natural born citizen)
Go do some home work. It is not that hard to see the difference between a nbc and a US citizen by statute/law
Look, I really don't give a damn what you think about it. It doesn't even really matter what I think about it, because the political system in this country has decided to give the current resident of the WH a pass on it, for whatever reason. The law and constitution don't matter if the men with guns who are willing to use them are not willing to enforce them.
A lawsuit filed in an Arizona superior court by Kenneth Allen (Allen v. Arizona Democratic Party) alleged that Obama was not a natural-born citizen because his father “was a resident of Kenya and thus a British citizen”. Allen argued that the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Minor v. Happersett required a natural-born citizen to be born in the U.S. of two U.S. citizen parents; however, the judge dismissed the suit on March 7, 2012, ruling that “President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution” and that “[c]ontrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett ... does not hold otherwise.”
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