Posted on 06/28/2014 3:19:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
China has a billion people, a command economy, and we can’t do a damned thing about them. We dont vote there.
We need to export all of our liberalism….and if we did that, we woulnd’t have to worry a bit about China. You never figure that out. And you never talk about anything else.
get meds
I think actually, I am catching an equal but opposite bit of “free trade” from you.
I agree with you that China has a billion people, and a command economy. I completely agree.
What I am saying is, we need to stop buying everything from there.
That is my point.
Bring back jobs, to America.
We are currently 17.5 trillion dollars in debt.
That is rapidly increasing.
Bring back jobs, to America.
Perfect analogy. Whereas Cheney is a serious heavyweight, anchored in a firm understanding of geopolitical reality.
A leaf vs a brick...
That is a pretty useless post to make over and over and spam threads with.
OK I’ll stop posting on this thread.
However I want to say before I leave:
We are sinking as a country. America is sinking. We are no longer exploring space. Our military budget is shrinking. And we continue to import ever more ... stuff.
Rapidly we have changed, and none of it for the better. We need to do something. Now.
We cannot simply keep on buying everything imported. We will eventually collapse.
I’m completely serious.
Off this thread now.
I don't think anyone is disagreeing with this.
In fact, might I be so bold as to say most here agree with the statement.
We seriously, need to bring back American jobs, and do things more for ourselves.
Someone needs to run with American employment, as a position.
I hope it is the GOP who gets with it.
Here's where the disagreement begins — for me it's because there's an implicit assertion here: that it is the government's role to ensure jobs. This is, to my thinking, incorrect: the government's job is to provide an environment where employers can employ and profit.
Governments do this by supporting justice, not by laying regulation upon rule upon law. (This also means that if the employer wrongs the employee, that employer should be punished; See James 5.) — And remember that justice is generally not promoted [and indeed undermined] when legal/allowable is dependent upon the actor.
If we were to drop the regulation-burden on the companies, that would certainly be a big step to igniting the economy… however, in order to do this we need to go on a wholesale purge of departments/agencies which are not Constitutional; this would reduce our Federal Government to essentially the following:
In the end you simply offer no real solutions, even when asked how?
— this is what harms your message.
Well if Cheney isn’t a “”real”” conservative, he’d do (with me) until the real thing comes along (if ever).
I have immense respect for Dick Cheney, moreso than I had for Bush during his first term (after that it kinda went downhill re: that respect). I know Cheney’s background and I know what he stands for. He’s for a strong national defense and military....which I am also for (it’s the only thing government really should be required to do with the billions of our tax dollars, and should be required to do it well, instead of half-assed under Democrats)...
and we wouldn’t be in the fix we’re in NOW if Cheney was in command or CIC. Just sayin...
Who is "we?" More to the point, "who" are you suggesting put a stop to this buying. And WTF are you saying is "how" we stop this buying. You really think government bureaucrats can figure this out? You offer the same platitudes over and over and over, and never anything more than that. This is what irritates people. And you also keep repeating stats that no one disagrees with. You just don't have the slightest idea of how macro economics work. Not the foggiest.
We are in the fix we are in now because of Cheney! We have had massive spending that we can’t reasonably ever repay due to the wars started by Bush/Cheney and continued by Obozo (though arguably Obozo has been much worse). The fact that there is no difference between Republican and Democrat foreign policy should give you some kind of clue.
If Cheney was CIC, we would have already had wars with Iran and Syria, and would likely be gearing up for World War Three with either Russia, China, or both.This guy is toxic, detrimental, and against everything that America stands for.
The fact that you think nothing of using a pointless smear phrase like “left wing diatribe” does not reflect well on YOU.I agree with gunpowder.As time goes by, more and more on the right will wise up to the lunatic New American Century Agenda as perpetrated by Cheney, Bush and their neo -con buddies.
Rand Paul is not a Capitalist Conservative, he’s a Socialist Conservative. His geopolitical thinking has gone so far right that it appears left now.
He is sock puppet of Lew Rockwell
you’re using left wing diatribe now yourself. And you don’t even hear it.
No, you’ll never hear that from any “establishment” representatives of what laughingly passes itself off as “The Left”-—they went along with the PNAC too, while hedging their bets ever-so-gently, hoping they could wring some credit if things turned out all right in Iraq, and Afghanistan. Well, they didn’t, and the fact that this current Adminstration couldn’t bring itself to do anything pro-active like bomb the ISIS convoys , which clearly advertisted themselves in yellow Toyota trucks as they made their way from city to city in an orgy of murder and mayhem, means that they too are a continuation of the problem.
I beleive both these guys need to take a timeout, draw a deep breath and go F*** themselves.
you are so obsessed with the point you’re trying to make, (on which we don’t totally disagree btw) that you aren’t thinking straight - or at least not responding logically to what I”m saying….which is that using Iraq as the reason America is hated ,and throwing around the term “neo con” - are BOTH LIBERAL TALKNG POINTS!!!!!!!
And nothing you can ever say will change that whatsoever….
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