Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

Comments?
1 posted on 12/16/2014 8:06:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will vote only on principle. I will not “hold my nose”. Give me a conservative to vote for or go to hell.


2 posted on 12/16/2014 8:09:30 PM PST by iowacornman (Romney is the father of government health care.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like “Bump” wants an even more effete congress in order to empower Obama more during his final two years.


3 posted on 12/16/2014 8:10:04 PM PST by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz got 22 votes last Friday. 6 of the new freshmen Senators are Tea Party folks. That makes 28 Tea Party and 26 RINOs. Does that mean McConnell is out and the Tea Party could take over the Senate?


4 posted on 12/16/2014 8:14:32 PM PST by robert14 (cng)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of course we should have 4 major parties.

Far Loonie Left, Center Left, Center Right, Strict Constitutional Conservative. If the Germans and Brits can figure that out, why not us. We must also repeal the 17th, so that the upper house will not be a popularly elected (which means Left in the bigger states with large urban areas and concentrations of gibsmedats who can outvote their more sensible ex-urban neighbors, who in some cases control the governorships and the state legislatures despite them. These urban ani, including the Ferguson Ferals do not deserve Senators. Bad enough they have their drooling idiotic CBC.

5 posted on 12/16/2014 8:16:01 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

What do I know? I already left the Republican Party. A year ago I registered as a Whig. http://www.modernwhig.org/


7 posted on 12/16/2014 8:18:34 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Muslim Creeping Conquest of America and Canada)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The map is incorrect - If the Republican establishment were diminished, the number of conservatives would definitely rise.


9 posted on 12/16/2014 8:27:20 PM PST by PGR88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The 4-way split is real, but not the same on all issues, so you can't do it on the basis of just one vote, the cromnibus, as the article does.

We're stuck with just two parties because of our plurality winner-take-all election system (with a few exceptions, e.g., 50% run-off states).

To make a major policy change, you have to take over an existing party, like the commies did to the Democrat Party.

Conservatives need to do it to the Republican Party.

10 posted on 12/16/2014 8:31:16 PM PST by MUDDOG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

With enough outside pressure the Congress will “do the right thing”.

Let em know what you think


11 posted on 12/16/2014 8:38:12 PM PST by woofie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
I see a Congress increasingly polarized, if you can still say "polarized" in 4 directions instead of 2.

Partisan, bickering more and accomplishing less, until the whole legislative branch grinds to a halt.

It was like that in the last days of Rome, I recall - a Senate useless and largely ceremonial, while the Emperor ruled by edict.

Sounds familiar.

16 posted on 12/16/2014 8:50:47 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

They got most of the South completely wrong. Particularly Florida. The east coast is not conservative— hardly. the strip from Tampa to Daytona is conservative by and large as is the panhandle. Solid dem— Miami, Dade and Broward counties.

NC is all wrong. the only true liberal islands are in Chapel Hill and Asheville. No where else really. Still tobacco country.


17 posted on 12/16/2014 8:52:44 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

People must really be falling away from the Republican party. I had a local Republican beg me to fill some positions in our local group, but I told him I really don’t consider myself a Republican. Should I do it, I mean, if we plan to “take back the party,” we should have conservatives in there to do it, right?


20 posted on 12/16/2014 9:38:46 PM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll say it again: We have the same problems that the Democrats used to have in the 1970’s and 80’s a more conservative caucus leadership and committee chairmen that didn’t reflect their base.

Only we have a more liberal caucus leadership and chairmanship that now does not reflect us as a conservative Republican base.

We have to get rid of and weed out leadership then (MOST) of the rest will fall in line with new priorities to return the country to Constitutional, Free Market, Smaller Government and Traditional values priorities.

FIRST STEP: Replace Boehner with an actual conservative (both fiscally and socially).


27 posted on 12/16/2014 10:42:41 PM PST by JSDude1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

There would be only three parties. There are no remaining moderate democrats. It would be D, R, and T.


28 posted on 12/16/2014 10:44:35 PM PST by ModelBreaker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

I think it would be worth a discussion, to see what the Tea Party insurgents could do, uniting to deny Boehner the Speakership in January and voting with liberal dissident Democrats who voted against Cromnibus to name a speaker who is part of neither Party establishment -- No Pelosis, no Boehner, no Cantor-wannabes (yes, I know Cantor's gone, happily primaried).

Well, how 'bout it? How' bout running Congress with a "weak" Speaker and no effectual Party leadership for a while?

I'm betting it would look and function a lot more like the Congress Abraham Lincoln and John Quincy Adams knew in the Jacksonian era, before kingpins and sugar trusts and political money from sleazy millionaires.

37 posted on 12/17/2014 5:26:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for Lthe termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson