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Next "Place Your Bets",GOP Ticket Survey. So Have We Changed Our Minds,Or Still With Ted Cruz.

Posted on 05/08/2015 6:02:00 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016

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To: doc1019

To avoid that we need to gel behind one candidate EARLY. Do not lay by the old rules or you will get the same result


61 posted on 05/08/2015 10:15:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: UnwashedPeasant

http://www.intrade.com


62 posted on 05/08/2015 10:48:44 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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To: Din Maker

Cruz can’t pick another hispanic. Cruz/Rubio ain’t going to happen. Florida won’t be a difficult pickup.


63 posted on 05/09/2015 12:51:45 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Police are just armed bureaucrats.)
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To: conservativejoy

Exactly. McCain denied himself the victory when
1) He inexplicably suspended his campaign to go sit in on the financial crisis meeting;
2) Openly praised Obama during the debates, saying the country “need not fear his presidency;
3) Refused to confront Obama on his ties to terrorists;
4) Muzzled Palin and refused to let her play her traditional running-mate role as campaign “attack dog;” and
5) Accepted $85 million in federal campaign funding (and all its limitations), while Obama broke the federal campaign funding agreement, proceeded to run up $300 million in fundraising and literally swamped a depleted McCain with massive ad buys in the waning days of the campaign.

Oh, yeah... and the imagery of an old, tire, debilitated, handicapped man juxtaposed with Obama’s youth and energy was a huge disadvantage, too.


64 posted on 05/09/2015 2:48:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hillary is nothing more than a white, wrinkled form of Obama in pants.)
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To: ScottinVA

tire=tired


65 posted on 05/09/2015 2:49:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hillary is nothing more than a white, wrinkled form of Obama in pants.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Isn’t there a website where you can really place bets on candidates? With real money?

Yes, there are several. Basically British and Irish bookies make bets available on elections, including US elections.

Here are the odds from Paddy Power, an Irish on-line bookie.

(BTW: It is against US law to bet on-line - so the site will not allow Americans to register. (thank you corrupt US legislators, Harry Reid, Sheldon Adelson & company))

Here they are, in order, from most likely to least. (Da Governator is not eligible to be POTUS, but then many feel neither was Obama, so maybe 80 to 1 is not so bad?)

Jeb Bush 9/4
Marco Rubio 7/2
Scott Walker 9/2
Rand Paul 8/1
Ben Carson 12/1
Ted Cruz 14/1
Paul Ryan 14/1
Chris Christie 20/1
Rob Portman 25/1
Bobby Jindal 25/1
Rick Perry 25/1
Mike Huckabee 25/1
Condoleezza Rice 33/1
Jon Huntsman 33/1
Carly Fiorina 33/1
Rick Santorum 33/1
John Kasich 40/1
Eric Cantor 40/1
Ron Paul 50/1
John McCain 66/1
Donald Trump 66/1
David Petraeus 66/1
Newt Gingrich 80/1
Arnold Schwarzenegger 80/1

Here are the odds for which party wins the election:

Democrat 4/6
Republican 6/5
Independent 50/1

And finally, for the many Ted Cruz fans on this thread, here are the odds for Ted and Hillary to win the election (excerpt from a much longer list)

Hillary Clinton evens
Ted Cruz 33/1

British Odds Explained

For those not familiar with British style betting, they can be understood by reading them as: "a bet of (the second number) will win you (the first number)". So 9/4 means: "a bet of 4 dollars will win you 9". In British betting the original wager is also returned to you, so in fact your 4 dollar bet would result in 13 dollars being handed back out to you from the teller if you won.

A $100 bet is calculated by dividing by the second number and multiplying the result by the first. 100/4=25 25X9=225, which is your winnings, and your $100 is also returned to you, for a total of $325.

The term "even" odds in British betting means 1/1, or a total of $2 returned on a $1 bet.

The British odds 9/4 are expressed as 3.25 in European odds and +225 in American odds.

American sports betting odds, termed the "moneyline", are based on a "normal" bet being double your money, or even odds. (It's also how friends typically bet on things. If I bet you $100 I get $100 from you if I win, and give you $100 if I lose.) The house holds the bet when you bet at a bookie, so your $100 bet returns $200 normally. US odds adjust this up or down.

So +225 can be read as "a $100 bet will win you $100, plus $225", or $325 total. A little confusing at first, but easy to understand if you bet in multiples of 100.

There are also negative odds in the us system, which mean something different. It is the amount you have to bet to win $100. So -500 means you would have to bet $500 to win $100, and get $600 returned to you.

In football betting you can either bet the points spread (which is always a straight 1/1 bet) or the moneyline. Obviously friends usually prefer point spread betting, moneyline is for bookies.

The European odds are simply the multiple of your money that is returned to you. In our example of a $100 dollar bet: $100 X 3.25 = $325, the amount returned to you.

66 posted on 05/09/2015 6:10:04 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

I think Cruz/Fiorina would have broad appeal. (no pun intended)


67 posted on 05/09/2015 8:36:05 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; ...
    Ted Cruz Ping!

    If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.
    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!

68 posted on 05/09/2015 10:35:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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    Daily Digest Ted Cruz Ping!

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    Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!

    CRUZ or LOSE!


Jon Stewart Panders to Liberals: 'Let's Get Rid of Ted Cruz'

Iowa Kingmaker Ditches Huckabee: He Sounds Like Hillary; I’m Going with Cruz

Ted Cruz's Father Suggests He'll Die Fighting Same-Sex Marriage, Which Will 'Destroy America': VIDEO

Rubio, Paul, Cruz vote to allow Obama to lift Iran sanctions
69 posted on 05/09/2015 10:41:19 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

I know one should never hide their beliefs out of fear, but the dems are the smarter group. They have never said “we hate Christianity and want it destroyed” but they keep getting elected and doing just that.

Why do republicans or their fathers have to scream that gay marriage will destroy America?
Do what Cruz is doing. Say it goes against 6000 years of civilization and it should be a state issue
The strong verbiage, which I agree with, never seems to help our cause.
A person who is on the border with gay marriage may look at Ted’s arguments and say “that makes sense”. He may read the “destroy America!” argument and say “crazy zealots.”

of course, like I said, I am wrong like 2 or 3 times a day, and this may be one :)


70 posted on 05/09/2015 10:50:03 AM PDT by dp0622
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To: Windflier; Din Maker

” George HW Bush wasn’t a turncoat, back-stabbing, sell-out, like Rubio is. He didn’t make his name in politics by pretending to be a staunch conservative, then upon achieving high office, eagerly fall in with the establishment elites.

GHWB was never a conservative, and never pretended to be one. Ronald Reagan chose him as his running mate to heal an intra-party rift that started during the primary. “

You have a good memory for facts, and truth.

Spot on.


71 posted on 05/09/2015 11:04:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: doc1019

My focus is really on seeing Cruz get top billing ....


72 posted on 05/09/2015 11:22:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: conservativejoy

I leave it to Cruz...I truest God and His Judgement on who he determines as VP....but I will say I don’t think Cruz’s VP will have the luxuries past VP’s seem to have....he’ll be as “busy” as perhaps Cheney was with Bush...not a sit down guy as Biden, but active and significantly so.


73 posted on 05/09/2015 11:25:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: cripplecreek

Cruz and West? Now that’s something I hadn’t considered but sounds good to me too!


74 posted on 05/09/2015 11:27:20 AM PDT by caww
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To: doc1019

Way too important not to already know.....


75 posted on 05/09/2015 12:14:04 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: caww
West has too much baggage, I think. Also, it will be seen as pandering.

West should run for Senate in Florida.

76 posted on 05/09/2015 2:53:31 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

If you refuse to support Ted here you must die a death of utter hopelessness and pain

I’m series


77 posted on 05/09/2015 2:56:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: caww
I am interested in Pence, given that he was shown as very conservative on this chart. Also, he's a midwesterner, which is a battle ground.

Rand might make a good VP too, help bring in millennial voters.

78 posted on 05/09/2015 2:58:25 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016; All
I originally posted this 12/1/14, it is holding up pretty well.. I've modified it some

Ok, here it is my unabashed description of the 2016 field..


Mike Huckabee: Bill Clinton with a Banjo
Chris Cristie: Bobby Bacala should not run for POTUS
Rick Santorum: Would make a great TV producer for EWTN
Jeb Bush: No more,Please or Oh Jeez not this **** again...
Ben Carson: The Huckabee of 08' for 2016
Mitt Romney: They don't sell Isuzu's here anymore Joe
Ted Cruz: Senate Majority Leader, those words are music to my ears. (Seriously, the signers of the Declaration of Independence must be his guardian angels).
Rand Paul: A Deadhead for POTUS?
Marco Rubio: I could have been a contenda...
The new ones...

Carlie Fiorina: The women Hillary wishes she could be
Scott Walker: Makes me want to buy Stock in Liberal Anti Panty-Wadding Products.

As my tagline says, it is Cruz/Walker, Walker/Cruz, everything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes...

79 posted on 05/09/2015 3:16:28 PM PDT by taildragger (It's Cruz & Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
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To: Jack Black

Wow, Jack! Thanks for all that info and formatting to make it easy to understand!

You really educated me, and now I know how to gamble on the internet! haha

IMO, the gambling odds are better than regular polls for knowing which candidates are ahead.


80 posted on 05/09/2015 4:23:42 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (A slave is one who waits for someone to come and free him.)
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