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Donald Trump is a complete lunatic on immigration. But he's no crazier than much of the GOP.
The Week ^ | July 6, 2015 | Paul Waldman

Posted on 07/06/2015 5:26:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Through the power of his bizarre brand of charisma, Donald Trump has moved from the sideshow to take up residence in the main tent of the GOP circus. And in the process, he's bringing all kinds of interesting issues to light. Even as he is getting dropped by one corporate partner after another (how America will survive without its Trump-branded mattresses is a mystery), he has moved toward the front of the Republican pack, at least for the moment. And while I'm guessing he's surprised that the backlash to his remarks on immigration has been so intense, Trump's repellent views can help us understand the issue and why it divides Americans the way it does.

In case you missed it, during the free-style spoken-word performance that was his announcement speech, Trump said, "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best...They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

In the days since, he has not backed down. While most Republicans haven't rushed to his defense....

(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; immigration; tedcruz; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump's repellent views can help us understand the issue and why it divides Americans the way it does.

I guess the guy is an employee of the magazine. Here's a better and traditional way Americans have solved problems by avoiding childish name-calling.

Please explain why federal crime data do not include ILLEGAL alien crime -- as a very informative study (Effects of Illegal Immigration Upon Crime In the United States) pointed out

"[T]he United States government does not readily keep statistics with regard to crimes committed by illegal immigrants. . . there exists a legal obligation [on federal agencies] . . . to report accurately [; e.g.,] the Office of Immigration Statistics, the Bureau of Justice Statistics, and the Government Accountability Office . . . the agencies [provide] raw statistical data with regard to incarcerations, criminal removals (deportations) and arrest information involving illegal immigrants [but as for data on] nationwide criminal prosecutions and convictions of illegal immigrants . . . no such information is kept and reported by the government . . . [in fact illegal alien crimes regularly result in] the criminal removal process rather than prosecuted with the intent to incarcerate them.

However the study did find that information about removal in lieu of prosecution and incarceration of illegal aliens can be seen in the

These provide raw statistical data because the statistics are broken down between criminal removals and non-criminal removals. Example: Table 41. ALIENS REMOVED BY CRIMINAL STATUS AND REGION AND COUNTRY OF NATIONALITY: FISCAL YEARS 2003 TO 2012

If these are not factual please provide the links to immigrant federal crime data so we can see there is no problem whatsoever -- it's minuscule not worth the effort.

21 posted on 07/06/2015 6:00:11 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Methinks crazy is good. Wake the sleeping lion(what’s left of it)


22 posted on 07/06/2015 6:00:41 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Diogenesis

Who is Paul Waldman, The Week, etc? Can’t find out anything from their website. Should I care or are they just another wackjob organization posing as “the media”?


23 posted on 07/06/2015 6:07:56 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (madmax)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Enforcing the law is “crazy” and “repugnant”?

Only in Bizzaro World.


24 posted on 07/06/2015 6:11:44 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Hugin
Enforcing the law is “crazy” and “repugnant”?

and racist, you forgot racist.

25 posted on 07/06/2015 6:15:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: txrefugee

Thanks very much for the political profile, information on “The Week”.I went to their site trying to learn more about their ideological perspective and how it would affect the article’s reality on Trump. I very much enjoyed your take on “The Week” and the manner in which you revealed them for what they are.


26 posted on 07/06/2015 6:17:11 PM PDT by lbryce (OBAMA:Misbegotten, GodForsaken, bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Trump's repellent views can help us understand the issue ..."

If they are repellant does it help border control?

27 posted on 07/06/2015 6:23:25 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Paladin2

If only.


28 posted on 07/06/2015 6:26:58 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: wastoute

“when the Donald implodes and says, “No mas” Cruz will pick up those that were awakened by Trump.”

EXACTLY...Cruz is absolutely brilliant in staying with Trump. The others, people that are led like a horse by their ‘advisers’ (most of them gay, by the way) were somehow convinced that they needed to ‘distance’ themselves from Trump...what they didn’t seem to understand is that, by default, they’ve lined themselves up with the Open Borders bunch, and that is going to be a VERY LONELY place to be, at least in this Primary season.


29 posted on 07/06/2015 6:30:32 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul Waldman is one of those Liberal Democrats who advocate that the United States abandon one of their most important sovereign responsibilities and open our borders to all comers. He shouts about American values and traditions, but he lies. He and his others of ilk want to destroy this country by importing enough voters to overcome the obstacles to their total control.

Their goal is complete control of this government and they know that they cannot achieve it without bringing in millions of illegal immigrants who will cast their illegal votes for the Democrats.


30 posted on 07/06/2015 6:33:21 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; 2ndDivisionVet
Trump's repellent views can help us understand the issue and why it divides Americans the way it does.

The truth is frequently ugly and unpleasant to hear.

Which is why many politicians avoid the truth like the plague.

31 posted on 07/06/2015 6:39:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: SaveFerris

Projection, projection, projection!!! They were NOT disturbed by eight years of vile slander directed at George Bush and his cabinet...and it STILL is not over, there are actually people out there who still want to try Dick Cheney for alleged (nonexistent) WAR CRIMES! These Communist bastards NEVER give up!


32 posted on 07/06/2015 6:50:07 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sniff, sniff...

Yes. Yes I do.

Especially since most of the GOP candidates’ positions are no different than Hillary or Bernie’s.


33 posted on 07/06/2015 6:51:33 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think that Trump is causing the Left’s heads to explode, and that’s a good thing. I must fix some popcorn.


34 posted on 07/06/2015 6:57:35 PM PDT by windsorknot
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People don’t know what the border is about (or know California which I don’t but I hear tales), this is in a way “Invincible Ignorance”; I know a person whom I think is of fairly good will and probably right-thinking in most ways, I really do. But we had a bit of a heated exchange on this matter.

The thing is, people don’t know what is going on down there, it’d surprise the daylights out of them. I don’t say that to be condescending of others.


35 posted on 07/06/2015 7:06:06 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

That magazine, “The Week”, I don’t know much about it. It looks like it tries to look as if it is unbiased and as a news magazine, you might find it on a plane or something as reading material but it definitely publishes leftist things like this ever so often.


36 posted on 07/06/2015 7:12:18 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waldman is a total dumb@$$ and a true example of the mental illness that is leftism...


37 posted on 07/06/2015 7:13:57 PM PDT by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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To: BeadCounter

The Week is Micky Mouse, they publish I think freelance journalists and so, sometimes they will get some leftist stuff like this.


38 posted on 07/06/2015 10:23:18 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

One big event and things will change dramatically. Such things as-—1. A Dirty Bome comes over the New Mexican Border and kills Houston. 2. Hoof and Mouth disease wrecks the cattle industry. 3, assassination teams fo a Mumbai style raid on Dallas, or New Orleans. 4. Killers come to assassinate political leaders. One big even and the Border will close—all illegals rounded up. But folks got to die first. People are now nodding their heads—Trump is right! A huge Cement wall, manned and enforced will stop the wave from the south.


39 posted on 07/07/2015 2:41:14 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Smell the condescension?

Mixes well the other obvious scent....

40 posted on 07/07/2015 3:14:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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