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To: Don Corleone
The question is what constitutes "Natural Born"?

The most logical reading of that term is someone who is a citizen by virtue of their birth, as opposed to a naturalized citizen. By US law, a person is a citizen at birth if, A) they are born on US soil (including US territories, military bases or embassies); or B) they are born to at least one parent who is a US citizen. There are people who will argue that NBC refers ONLY to those born on US soil to 2 US citizen parents, but no court has ever upheld that definition, so that is their own opinion, not fact.

16 posted on 01/05/2016 4:25:47 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

Had Cruz been born in 1933 under the identical birth circumstances that he was born into in 1970, than he would not even have been a US citizen. The Cable Act, passed in 1934, allowed a US citizen woman, married to a foreign national and who gives birth in a foreign country, to transmit US citizenship onto the newborn child for the first time.

Article II, Section I clause 5, was ratified in 1791 with the rest of the constitution, long before the Cable Act.. Article I has not been modified by any subsequent amendment. Accordingly, the original intent and meaning of Article II stands absent any such constitutional amendment.

The purpose of Article II, Section I clause 5 was to prevent undue foreign influence on the office of the presidency, PARTICULARLY thru a father owing allegiance to a foreign sovereignty. The framers took their definition for NBC from Emmerich De Vattel’s Law of Nations, the 212th paragraph of which was quoted in it’s entirety in the 1814 Venus Merchantman decision. The Law of Nations is referred to in Article I of the constitution. That definition referred to an NBC as being born of two citizen parents and born on the soil of the nation. That definition was cited in the 1868 case of Minor vs Hapersett, and Wong Kim Ark vs US. De Vattel has been cited and accepted in dozens of SCOTUS and federal lower court rulings.

The authors of the 14th amendment, Senators Howard Jacob and Rep. Bingham also defined an NBC in similar terms.

Obama is the very embodiment and personification of the REASON that the framers put those protections into the constitution. By ignoring it, we have opened ourselves to the anti American and unconstitutional tyranny that Obama poses to our constitutional republic.

Ted Cruz is head and shoulders the best candidate in the race. He is a patriot who loves this country and it’s people. He is intellectually and philosophically superior to ANYONE else in the race. As much as I admire him, He CANNOT be considered a natural born citizen, as he is a citizen by statute. He was born with THREE countries (The US, Canada, and Cuba thru his father) having a legitimate claim on his allegiance from birth, whether he wanted it or not. I believe in the constitution and the rule of law, NOT in the cult of personality.


32 posted on 01/05/2016 8:29:29 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: CA Conservative

The most logical reading of that term is someone who is a citizen by virtue of their birth, as opposed to a naturalized citizen. By US law, a person is a citizen at birth if, A) they are born on US soil (including US territories, military bases or embassies); or B) they are born to at least one parent who is a US citizen. There are people who will argue that NBC refers ONLY to those born on US soil to 2 US citizen parents, but no court has ever upheld that definition, so that is their own opinion, not fact.


Would you please provide a link that supports your statement?
If true, then Jughead has been NBC all along, his mother being a US citizen. Thanks..


46 posted on 01/08/2016 6:04:52 AM PST by AFret.
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To: CA Conservative

IRREFUTABLE AUTHORITY HAS SPOKEN (SCOTUS)
(Oct. 18, 2009) — The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned that the Supreme Court of the United States has given the definition of what a “natural born citizen” is. Since being a natural born citizen is an objective qualification and requirement of office for the U.S. President, it is important for all U.S. Citizens to understand what this term means.

http://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/18/4-supreme-court-cases-define-natural-born-citizen/


48 posted on 01/08/2016 6:23:46 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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