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Veterans slam Sarah Palin for saying son's domestic abuse arrest result of PTSD
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Posted on 02/03/2016 7:58:09 AM PST by Virtuoso80

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To: SuzyQue
I have it and I go to a weekly group with other vets who have it.

For you to suggest it does not cause erratic, often violent behavior...especially when fueled by alcohol...shows your "familiarity" is likely limited to reading about it in a women's magazine.

61 posted on 02/03/2016 12:19:18 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Virtuoso80

I don’t think even she believed what she was saying. It was uncomfortable and kind of tacky trying to weave it into a political endorsement.


62 posted on 02/03/2016 12:23:25 PM PST by Nickname
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To: Mariner
I meet with PTSD vets weekly. You should stop by some time and tell them what you think of their condition.

Mariner, I am not unsympathetic to anyone who has problems dealing with aspects of their service. Guilt for some of one's actions, survivor's guilt, and occasional nightmares are real things that many combat vets deal with from time to time. But grown men deal with it and move on with their lives -- unless others come along and tell them they are special snowflakes who no longer have to deal with real life. That's why I say that most PTSD disability claims -- and the molly-coddling, benefit-grubbing industry that seeks to transform normal human experience into a subsidized disability -- is bullshit.

Men who are tough enough to fight are tough enough to deal with the consequences of fighting. Most of the PTSD "victims" I've encountered did not actually fight, while those who saw the most intense action are among the most successful people I know. They are forever changed and aren't perfect, but they are healthy and getting on with their lives.

63 posted on 02/03/2016 12:44:43 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Mariner

That’s all right, Mariner, I don’t believe you either.


64 posted on 02/03/2016 12:46:24 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I would implore you to impart that wisdom on Teddy followers. The only who believe Ted speaks for them or through them or something of the sort. The evangelical/Christian purity thing is turning into a parody.


65 posted on 02/03/2016 1:12:21 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Always A Marine
"They are forever changed and aren't perfect, but they are healthy and getting on with their lives. "

While they are, for the most part, getting on with their lives, I don't know that I would describe them as healthy.

And the really bad one's aren't even in the system.

66 posted on 02/03/2016 1:15:03 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: onedoug; Always A Marine

I have no direct experience, but an Australian veteran with a v good record commented to me that most of the people who claim PTSD were “crazy before they went out there.” He also commented unsympathetically that in many cases the issue seemed to be alcoholism. An inability to move on to a lifestyle outside of institutional support may also be a factor - thus as AlwaysAMarine comments, the need to move on with life.


67 posted on 02/03/2016 3:26:50 PM PST by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: BlackVeil; Always A Marine

This has been my experience with those that I’ve known from Vietnam. I think too, it was the case with the whacko that murdered Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield.

Like Always A Marine noted earlier, there are undoubtedly those who truly do suffer this malady, but I agree with him that they are far fewer than we’re being led to believe.

I saw a lot of close combat in Vietnam, and lost some close friends. Yet I never had any problem sorting out the here and there, the then and now. It’s life. And one needs to just get on with it.


68 posted on 02/03/2016 4:56:17 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Virtuoso80

Vets should show some gratitude for the support Gov Palin has always offered them


69 posted on 02/03/2016 6:20:22 PM PST by SarahPalinForPresident2012 (And 2016 as well)
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