Posted on 04/04/2016 7:58:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In his final swing through Wisconsin before the state's Tuesday presidential primary, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said states should be allowed to ban abortion even in cases of rape and incest.
Cruz took questions from Fox News host Megyn Kelly and audience members at a town hall event Monday at the Madison Masonic Center.
Early in the event, a woman who described herself as a moderate, pro-choice Republican told Cruz she's afraid if he becomes president he will outlaw abortion entirely.
Cruz said he wants to see people's hearts and minds changed on the issue. He argued laws should be changed at the state level, not through judicial decisions.
He also said he believes the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision is not settled law, calling it an example of judicial activism.
Kelly then noted that Cruz doesn't favor exceptions to allow abortion in cases of rape or incest.
"When it comes to rape, rape is a horrific crime against the humanity of a person, and needs to be punished and punished severely," Cruz said. "But at the same time, as horrible as that crime is, I don't believe it's the child's fault. And we weep at the crime, we want to do everything we can to prevent the crime on the front end, and to punish the criminal, but I don't believe it makes sense to blame the child."
Cruz took the question as an opportunity to criticize his Republican foe, real estate mogul Donald Trump, who said last week that if abortion were illegal, women ought to be punished for having one.
Trump later walked back his statement, saying he believes abortion should be illegal but that abortion providers and not the women who receive them should be punished
Cruz said Trump's comments were the words of a liberal trying to say what conservatives want to hear. He argued that women are victims of abortion, and said no conservative wants to see women punished.
Over the weekend, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards campaigned for Democratic former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She argued that women are already being punished by laws that make it increasingly difficult to obtain an abortion.
Richards, speaking at a private event on Saturday, said there is "not a daylight of difference between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz and John Kasich" on the issue.
Cruz was joined on Monday by two former presidential candidates now supporting him: Gov. Scott Walker and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina.
He plans to await Wisconsin's primary results at Serb Hall in Milwaukee, according to his campaign.
The full interview and town hall event is set to air Monday night during Kelly's 8 p.m. show.
Well, once again this issue, which is first not a Federal issue and second not a Federal Executive issue threatens to drag the poor, stupid Republicans underwater in a year they should be doing well.
I watched the Kelly/Cruz program of the town hall.
Kelly asked if he didn’t agree that Roe v. Wade was settled law. Cruz set snarky Megyn straight by saying no, because 5 lawyers/unelected judges can not make laws.
He said that laws regarding abortion and exceptions should be decided by the States because the Constitution doesn’t give that right to the Federal gov’t.
Megyn had a shocked look on her face. I seen her several times over the last few years stating, as though she is an authority, that SCOTUS decisions are “settled law”, when they are never “law”.
Maybe we should let States decide slavery too? Oh wait....did that already. Abortion is either murder wherever it happens or its not murder anywhere. Cruz had a chance to try and do something against abortion in the Senate...did he filibuster against abortion? Nope.
So true. But you’re not going to hear this on the GOPe television networks. Their goal now is to derail Trump.
You mean justices like Roberts that gave us the obamacare tax? Yeah, that was Ted’s man.
There are many people that can advise a president on picking justices. You think Ronald Reagan knew all the judges he would pick before being elected? All Trump needs is the recommendations of a few advisors.
We need someone with a basic understanding of business and the economy. Ted lacks that. We continue our current path of debt and bad trade and immigration policies and we won’t need a Supreme Court. We won’t have a country.
“Rather than bitching at Ted, you better try to solve the problem, shouldn’t you?”
Okay, give me some guidance. What can I, or anyone do, to personally over ride the Supreme Court?
Here in Louisiana, the state has passed laws to prevent abortion. It has been over ruled by the courts every time.
We all would like for the states to handle abortion. We do not have that option. That has been taken off the table.
Please tell me how Cruz is going to outlaw abortion, on the state level?
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Cruz hasn’t said any such thing. He said the decision should be left to each State because it’s not within the Federal govt’s authority.
and it will not be pleasant on judgment day when you are facing someone you mocked, either.
you assume nothing is done by people like me. how unfortunate for you.
cruz does not have to outlaw anything. Murder is already against the law.
” I cannot condemn a woman who may have been severely traumatized by the circumstances of those pregnancies should she decide to terminate.”
Of course there are tough times. That goes with life in general, and we cannot escape from them.
One does not kill when life is tough, though.
“Okay, give me some guidance. What can I, or anyone do, to personally over ride the Supreme Court?
Here in Louisiana, the state has passed laws to prevent abortion. It has been over ruled by the courts every time.
We all would like for the states to handle abortion. We do not have that option. That has been taken off the table.
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the single greatest thing is to support leaders who believe as you do.
You had Jindal as Governor and I believe he fit that category. I applaud you and your fellow citizens who got him elected. He used the bully pulpit to support social conservatism and put teeth to it by supporting state judges that think as well.
In a democracy like we live in that vote in officials who decided our laws, this is the best we can do, unless you decide to run for an office yourself.
Not mocking anyone, I’m asking a question.
If he plans to leave it to the states, then why even make it an issue? Oh yea, just to get his voice out there on this topic.
Nonetheless, if you are praying for resolution, I do as well.
What I am speaking to is why are there not thousands of Christians out in NC supporting this vile pushback?
I am seriously asking why the voice is sooooooo quiet, it hasn’t served us, imho.
Thanks SFC - I’m confused where 2nd made the leap that I was advocating for abortion?! That’s a head scratcher.
I’m only saying that feeding into the nonsensical war on women, is not bright, at all!
“Watch this! Maybe it will help you to better understand.”
Sorry it didn’t. There are thousands of women that voluntarily abort their babies each year that know exactly what they are doing. In fact many have had multiple abortions, and many would gladly throw you under the bus to keep their precious right to be irresponsible.
For anti-abortionists to deny this fact is as bad as abortionists denying that a 6,7,8 month old “fetus” is a baby. Both sides are in a state of denial for the sake of convenience. The abortionists because they don’t want to face the consequences of their actions, the anti-abortionists fear the wrath of all the women that want abortion.
Seems to me the anti-abortionists have two choices, either stop calling abortion murder, or hold the perpetrators (including the one that knowingly and willingly offers up the baby for the deed) responsible. I simply don’t see any other LOGICAL out. Calling the women victims is an insult to intelligence.
The only other position one could hold is one based on practical necessities. Which is to recognize that it is a political reality that if a politician came out with the position of punishing women who commit abortion he would never get elected, and therefore the abortion rate would remain high. Whereas, if as a first step, one were to go after the abortionist while leaving the woman alone, that would be much more palatable, even for the women, and thus more politically viable. And since doing your own abortion is rather difficult especially third semester, the number of abortions would be significantly reduced, which is the goal.
The closest current parallel to this approach are the drug laws which are much more severe against a drug pusher than a user. The drug dealer is analogous to the abortionist and the user to the woman.
Once cannot be leaving things to a federal government. It will never end well.
The states are sovereign in this country, not the feds.
Yes, it is heinous. But people at state or local levels will deal with it.
Once it gets into the hands of the feds and those loathsome bureaucrats, it becomes just collateral/
Of course, I understand all that. What I’m asking is why it seems so challenging to have Christians mobilize to stand up for OUR rights - the right NOT to have this crap pushed in our face. All of it, abortion/gay this and gay that/transexual bathroom nonsense.
I see why PayPal et al get away with their ‘threats’, our side does squat. Nothing, not a damn thing. It puzzles me greatly.
the more local you can make it, the better chance you have to making a dent in it.
When I lived in Connecticut years ago, I enjoyed being able to go to the town meetings where business was conducted.
Once could stand up and vent.
Try doing that to the IRS or the EPA.
No, we can just continue losing.
Our country is in horrible horrible shape, and getting worse, but at least you have your morals.
If your “winner” doesn’t have a set of core beliefs that embrace conservative (moral) principles and doesn’t view the Constitution as a sacred compact, how does winning help make it better?
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