You, as a Cruz supporter, what do you have to say about the following scenario:
1. Trump wins 1237+ delegates by state primary rules.
2. Cruz and Romney controlled delegates show up at the Convention and change the rules so that Trump’s 1st ballot delegates become unbound before the 1st ballot because ... Cruz.
3. Trump suffers defections of delegates who were actually stealth Cruz supporters to put him at less than 1237 on the 1st ballot.
4. Trump loses 1st ballot.
5. RNC mandates a 2nd Ballot runoff because ... above fray.
6. Cruz wins runoff.
Sound good to you?
What would you have GOP tell millions upon millions of voters who voted for Trump? Sorry, those are the rules and the process?
That isn’t going to happen.
What would you have GOP tell millions upon millions of voters who voted for Trump? Sorry, those are the rules and the process?
These folks don’t care about the voters. Just like their cReepy candidate.
It's over. Trump has won.
The rest of your scenario is a fantasy.
However, what if...???
1. Trump wins <1237 delegates by state primary rules.
What then...???
how many of us are actually learning about the primary race? We are learning as Trump is learning! LOL state to state.
thing is. The laws can be changed, yes? Will anyone do anything about it? We’ll see.
Now...After 30 years of talking about running for president DT should know what he is doing.
Are you sure you want him to run the country? It’s not only about building a wall.
I don't see how this can happen. The party leaders can't arbitrarily change these kinds of rules at the convention. Only a majority of the delegates that are there can vote to change a rule as important as this. And it makes no sense that a 1237 delegate majority who are bound to Trump would be the very same ones who would vote to un-bind themselves before the first ballot.
Don't forget that even if a handful of the Trump majority are fifth columnists, that handful, in order to be part of an absolute majority voting to overturn the rules before the first ballot, would need a heckuva lot more than just the Cruz delegates ... They'd also have to join with every single delegate pledged to Rubio & Kasich & Carson and all the other also-rans, and even then would still be far short of a majority unless they can convince almost every single UN-pledged delegate to join with them. This is bordering on the realm of the fantastic.
OTOH if you believe that a VERY large chunk of pledged Trump delegates might actually be 5th columnists, that would mean you have zero faith in Trump's team's ability to locate people who truly support him to run as delegates.
As another (more or less) Cruz supporter (I prefer Cruz but I’ll vote Trump because I want a first round decision at the convention), here’s my comment from two days ago:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3418672/posts?page=16#16
Cruz won 11 states:
ID, WY, UT, TX,
OK, KS, AL, ND,
IA, WI, ME.
He has roughly 505 to 517 delegates, 32-33% of committed delegates, which is enough to be a serious contender.
Trump won 20 states:
HI, NV, AZ, MO,
AR, LA, MI, IL,
KY, TN, MS, AL,
GA, FL, VA, NC,
SC, MA, VT, NH.
He has roughly 743 to 758 delegates, 47% of committed delegates, which makes him a strong front runner but not (yet) the winner.
John Kasich is a footnote in the race, with 143 or 144 delegates.
There are something like 108 to 114 unassigned delegates, and 186 to 188 delegates assigned to candidates who dropped out who could cross over to Trump, Cruz, or even Kasich.
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If Cruz gets ALL of the unassigned, plus the Rubio, Jeb, Carson, Fiorina, Huckabee, and Paul delegates, that would put him in the lead but still under 50%. Cruz cannot do it without the Kasich delegates too.
If Trump gets 32% of the unassigned, plus the same share of the Rubio, Jeb, Carson, Fiorina, Huckabee, and Paul delegates, that would put him over 50%. If Trump can’t even get 32% of those delegates, (1) he’s not the man I think he is, and (2) he doesn’t deserve the nomination. Include the Kasich delegates once they are no longer bound to the traitor, and Trump needs 21% of the non-Cruz delegates. It’s not being “stolen” from him if Trump doesn’t get over 50%; that just means he’s just not good enough at politics to close the deal.
Note: If assigned Trump delegates defect in the first round or even in later rounds but while Trump is still the front runner, then the nomination is being stolen from him. Trump needs to interact with his delegates, court them, build their loyalty, and in all respects work to make sure that doesn’t happen.