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Trump gives a direct, strong answer on transgendered people and bathrooms.
Althouse ^ | April 21, 2016 | Ann Althouse

Posted on 04/21/2016 1:22:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I like the way he focused on the role of law. North Carolina enacted a law, and now "they're paying a big price, and there's a lot of problems." Law wasn't needed, because: "There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate, there has been so little trouble." There was already a social adjustment that accommodated people who needed to be accommodated.

Asked whether he would let Caitlyn Jenner, a trans woman, use the bathroom of her choice at Trump Tower, he said he would. He added, "There's a big move to create new bathrooms. Problem with that is … first of all, I think that would be discriminatory in a certain way. It would be unbelievably expensive for businesses and for the country. Leave it the way it is."

He was clear, practical, and sensible. He didn't go into impugning anyone on either side but saw it in terms of economics and law — and by law, I mean the limits of law, where it should end and where social etiquette works.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

Scroll to 8:24 for the relevant part.

ADDED: Trump seems to be letting his roots grow out. Can we expect to see him with a fully white head of hair by the time the election rolls around? The location of the white part now gives some clues as to the directionality of the combover. I hope he gets a haircut soon, leaving the whole crazy swirl shorter and removing all that's left of the orangosity.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues
KEYWORDS: 2nddivisionvet; 9threpost; alreadyposted; bathroomwars; brokenrecord; danielgabrielops; homosexualagenda; howarddeanredux; ilovetowhine; lemonadestand; tdsposting; transbenders; trump; unisex; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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To: chris37

You miss the point. There is nothing illegal about a man using a woman’s locker room, even if children are present according to these liberal laws. There is no such legal designation as “transgendered”. It is a chosen description.


21 posted on 04/21/2016 1:33:31 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: seawolf101

This really should be in breaking. To bad for Cruzies that Prince died today. Nobody paying attention to their agitprop hysterics today.


22 posted on 04/21/2016 1:33:45 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: map

Actually, I don’t want the pervert anywhere near my kids, but the policy of letting perverts into public restrooms with children is apparently O.K. with Donald.


23 posted on 04/21/2016 1:34:05 PM PDT by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: digger48

Bruce Jenner didn’t actually endorse Ted Cruz. Neither did Mitt Romney, for your records.


24 posted on 04/21/2016 1:34:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: over3Owithabrain

In gold bars, my man. In gold bars.


25 posted on 04/21/2016 1:34:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp
Maybe after Trump becomes the POTUS he can name Cruz the official Potty Room Czar....

Port a potty Czar.

26 posted on 04/21/2016 1:35:08 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: chris37

I kind of agree. It’s like all the laws about being on the phone or texting while driving. We don’t need more laws. Phoning, texting, drinking, eating, shaving, makeup... it’s all covered under careless or reckless. Just pull them over and ticket. We don’t need more laws.


27 posted on 04/21/2016 1:35:57 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In fact, Americans are fairly evenly divided on this issue:

Americans aged 18 to 29 favor letting transgender people use the restroom of their identity by a 2-to-1 ratio. Among Americans aged 60 or more, the ratio was 2-to-1 in reverse with people saying restroom use should be mandated by the gender on one’s birth certificate.

Forty-four percent of women favor letting a man who is in transition from male to female into their public toilets, compared to 39 percent who say they must use the facilities matching their gender assigned at birth.

“As long as they’re not harming anyone, not harming children, and are dressed as male or female according to the bathroom where they are going, they have the same rights as everybody else,” said Debbie Dellera, 65, a Republican and Donald Trump supporter from central New Jersey who participated in the poll.

Overall, the public is roughly split, with 43 percent saying they are closer to the view that people should use public restrooms “according to the biological sex on their birth certificate” compared to 41 percent who opt for “according to the gender with which they identify.”

The poll of 2,039 people was taken April 12-18, amid running controversies on the issue in several states, and has a credibility interval of 2.5 percentage points. The credibility interval is 5.5 points for the 18-to-29 subgroup.


28 posted on 04/21/2016 1:36:28 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: chris37

And you’re fine with bakers being forced to bake a homosexual wedding cake? Hey, it’s only a cake!


29 posted on 04/21/2016 1:36:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This whole thing is stupid. There are more important things to worry about. I grew up in a gay town (Palm Springs) and in the gay culture because I had a gay father. I oppose homosexuality, but at the same time, I grew up with Trannies and them in the bathroom was never an issue it hasn’t been until a couple of months ago. Most went to the mens room, some went to the women’s no one cared. The libs have seen this as a weak spot to make us look like bigots and evil Christians and are driving a wedge.

There are bigger fish to fry. And I was never allowed in the bathroom unaccompanied.


30 posted on 04/21/2016 1:36:44 PM PDT by reaganaut (Bible Scholars, Theologians and Evangelicals for Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, in women’s bathrooms there are stalls. They are exposed to full-grown men in public all the time.

Bathroom laws or not my granddaughters have mace and Tasers.


31 posted on 04/21/2016 1:37:05 PM PDT by tiki
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So where did he endorse this as I keep seeing off some immature idiots ?

Also cruz takes money off one of big donors who is a homosexual activist, do you have a problem with this too?


32 posted on 04/21/2016 1:37:38 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: bigbob

Americans are split on the issue? All that matters is what God thinks. We better get it right.


33 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:10 PM PDT by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: bigbob

That’s because they gamed the survey.

The laws allow a man to use a girl’s locker room. There is no way to designate transgender.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living/feat-planet-fitness-transgender-member/


34 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:15 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apples and oranges.


35 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:17 PM PDT by tiki
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Law wasn't needed, because: "There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate, there has been so little trouble." There was already a social adjustment that accommodated people who needed to be accommodated.

Except it WAS NEEDED. Why was the law needed? Because one of the largest (and liberal) cities in NC had enacted an ordinance expanding the "non-discrimination" provisions to include gender identity. This ordinance would FORCE all businesses, schools, churches, and other organizations to allow "transgender persons" to use the rest rooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, showers, etc. of their chosen identity rather than their biological gender. This law made that city ordinance illegal. The law stated that all government bathrooms, locker rooms, dressing rooms, and showers that are gender specific shall be limited to the biological sex of the users - not whatever they decide they are. The law also left it up to businesses and other private organizations to choose their own policy, but prohibited local petty tyrants from mandating those polices onto businesses or other organizations.

36 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:17 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: seawolf101

So ignore them and move on..Now wasn’t that easy?


37 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:28 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: conservativejoy

The question was “which facility may Jenner use”. Your answer is “neither”.

I understand.


38 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:30 PM PDT by map
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was wondering when he’d finally have to answer that question and am disappointed but not surprised by his response.


39 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:49 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: conservativejoy
I’m glad it’s fine with Trump that Bruce Jenner go to the bathroom with his granddaughters

Where did he say this?

40 posted on 04/21/2016 1:38:51 PM PDT by noexcuses
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