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Lawyer: Terri still in danger
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 22, 2003, 5:15 p.m. Eastern | By Sarah Foster

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:50:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Family barred from visiting brain-disabled woman, judge drags feet on appointment of new guardian

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Posted: October 22, 2003

5:15 p.m. Eastern

ven though Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and state legislature yesterday halted the court-ordered starvation death of brain-disabled Terri Schindler-Schiavo, her family and legal counsel are afraid her life will be increasingly at risk as long as the courts allow her husband to remain her guardian and do not appoint a guardian ad litem as demanded by the special legislation that was passed.

"My greatest fear is that Michael [Schiavo] will order Terri out of the hospital before she is medically stabilized and rehydrated – as he did three times last August when she had pneumonia," said Patricia Anderson, attorney for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler.

"That is why we need a guardian ad litem," she added. "That is what Terri's Bill is about. We've got to have a guardian ad litem to put a stop to that kind of hijinks, because his primary objective is to kill her."

Schiavo very nearly succeeded in his five-year quest to end his wife's life by court-approved starvation. With only a few hours remaining before she slipped beyond the point where she could be saved, Florida lawmakers yesterday delivered to the governor legislation empowering him to order Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted, and Bush signed the life-saving law as well as an implementing executive order.

"Terri's Bill" specifically directs the chief judge (David Demers) of the 6th Judicial Circuit Court to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent Terri "upon issuance of a stay," but he has not yet done so – which Anderson views as a matter of urgency.

"Terri will be out of danger only when Michael is no longer her guardian and no longer has access to her," she said bluntly.

Crowds of demonstrators cheered wildly, as Terri was transferred by ambulance from Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla., to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, about 25 miles away, where upon her feeding tube was reinserted and rehydration begun after her six days ordeal of judge-ordered starvation.

Family locked out

No sooner was his wife admitted to Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater, Fla., than Schiavo sent an order barring Terri's parents and siblings from visiting her.

The Schindlers were not informed of Schiavo's action, and only learned of it late that evening from Terri's brother, who had driven to the hospital to visit his sister and was escorted from the premises by an armed security guard. Bobby Schindler, 38, told WorldNetDaily he was told by the administrator on duty that Schiavo had left instructions that "no family members, no anybody is to visit Terri," and that they were to be given no information about her medical condition.

Schindler was too exhausted by worry over the fate of his sister and the events of the past seven days to express anger. But he said he's not surprised by this recent action by Schiavo.

"Michael's been doing this kind of thing for almost as long as he's been guardian of my sister," he exclaimed. "It's been going on for over a decade and it continues. Even after the governor stepped in and did what he did today, [Schiavo] continues to use his power as a weapon against our family and Terri."

It's one of many times her husband has ordered Terri isolated from family and those close to her. In mid-August, he barred a Roman Catholic priest from visiting her at Morton Plant Hospital where she was taken due to a sudden medical crisis.

Schiavo said his action that time was prompted by a late-evening visit by Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski, a former Army chaplain, who had been asked by Terri's father to drop by the hospital to see how she was faring.

Even though the monsignor was on a court-approved list of visitors and regularly visited her at the hospice where she has been a patient for three years, Schiavo had a long-standing policy that no one could visit Terri unaccompanied either by himself or family member and that Malanowski had knowingly violated his order.

Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell told WorldNetDaily that her client was concerned about Malanowski's "integrity" and felt the 81-year-old priest was not "the kind of person that he wanted visiting Terri or that he felt comfortable visiting Terri." Eventually he relented slightly and the monsignor was allowed to resume his visits subject to week-to-week approval by Schiavo.

Last Wednesday, the day Terri's feeding tube was removed, Schiavo's attorneys ordered family members barred from being alone with Terri at the hospice following Robert Schindler's release to the media of a videotape distributed in evidence that the woman is not in a "persistent vegetative state," as Schiavo's advocates claim.

Schindler admitted the tape was made surreptitiously in violation of a court order by probate Judge George Greer of the Pinellas-County Circuit Court. The video, which shows Terri alert and laughing and trying to speak, further indicates attempts at rehabilitative therapy, also banned by the courts.

Following the video's release, her family was told they were barred from visiting the dying woman "unless [Schiavo] or his representative is present."

In at least one instance, the "representative" that accompanied Robert and Mary Schindler to the bedside of their daughter was none other than the mother of Schiavo's mistress, Jodi Centonze, with whom he has been living for a number of years. He and Centonze have a 1-year-old daughter and are expecting a second child.

As WorldNetDaily reported, the Schindlers had been fighting their son-in-law for 10 years over the lack of care and therapy Schiavo as her guardian provided for their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under mysterious circumstances at the age of 26.

The ongoing dispute escalated five years ago when Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to end his wife's life by removing her feeding tube, insisting she is in a "persistent vegetative state" and had told him years before she would not want to be maintained "by tubes" and "artificial means." Although Terri breathes on her on and maintains her own blood pressure, she requires a simple tube into her abdomen to her stomach for nourishment and hydration.

The Schindlers fought tenaciously to keep their daughter and the case alive in the courts, but they have been basically blocked at every turn, in particular by Greer, who has had charge of the case almost from the beginning. When the seven-member Florida Supreme Court in August turned down a petition to review the case, the way was clear for Schiavo to starve his wife to death.

On Sept. 17, Greer scheduled Oct. 15 as the day Terri's feeding tube would be removed. At the same time, in separate rulings, he denied any rehabilitation for the disabled woman or a chance to be spoon-fed.

Information on Terri's fight for life is posted on the family's website.


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To: Catspaw
SECTION 3. Branches of government.--The powers of the state government shall be divided into legislative, executive and judicial branches.

No person belonging to one branch shall exercise any powers appertaining to either of the other branches unless expressly provided herein.

The legislature passed a new law. It did not strip the court of its ability to interpret the law. I fail to see how, in passing new legislation, the Florida legislature exercised a power appertaining to the judiciary. How is the case at hand a separation of powers issue?

161 posted on 10/22/2003 5:50:12 PM PDT by kennedyd
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To: Catspaw
SECTION 3. Branches of government.--The powers of the state government shall be divided into legislative, executive and judicial branches. No person belonging to one branch shall exercise any powers appertaining to either of the other branches unless expressly provided herein.

Hmmm... a nice find I guess, but all it merits is a "So what?" Legislature writes a new law, carried out by the Executive, and written terse enough and specific enough to diallow misinterpretation by the Judiciary. Now, unless it is deemed unconstitutional, and I can't see how it can be rendered as such, the law stands; regardless of how it was conceived.

Thanks for playing.

Tell me, why do some of you want this woman to assume room temperature?

163 posted on 10/22/2003 5:59:39 PM PDT by Tuxedo (In Stereo Where Available)
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To: nickcarraway
I've read a lot of these threads, and must conclude that her husband is a despicable creep. To deny clergy the right to minister is beyond reprehensible. What kind of "man" refuses last rites?
164 posted on 10/22/2003 6:00:10 PM PDT by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: FreedomMan_CA
yes, the video editing bothers me quite a bit. I'm fairly new to reading about this cause, but I was willing to believe her supporters lock, stock and barrel before finding out how those video's were produced.

The terri-cable.mov file I saw (8-11-2001 IIRC) appeared to be one continuous, long take. For parts Terri seemed responsive, for other parts not. Downloading the 10MB file was a pain though. Editing a file to reduce bandwidth may have been a reasonable technical decision, if a foolish evidentiary one.

To my mind, a bigger issue is why Judge Greer was so interested in having Terri railroaded without a guardian ad litem. A GAL is appointed as a matter of course in cases where there's a small possibility of a conflict of interest, much less where there's any actual action contrary to interest.

A more appropriate question to ask would be "Why should I consider anything MS says to be untrue?"

Please reconcile the following statements (feeling free to correct any inaccuracies).

Need I go on? If I'm wrong in attributing any of the above claims to Michael Schiavo please let me know.
165 posted on 10/22/2003 6:12:14 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: nickcarraway
BTTT for Terri.

Choose life NOT euthenasia!
166 posted on 10/22/2003 6:14:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: yhwhsman
Actually, unless Michael's current domestic partner is brain-dead herself, she is aware of how this could impact her children's future. For all we know she is telling him to cool it. To think of her and her children.
I sure would hate to be in those shoes, about to give birth, and my husband embroiled in something like this.

Some will say her behavior speaks for itself. It speaks but it doesn't say everything. We know nothing else about this woman, she could be young and naive and psychologically vulnerable to a controlling type. I'm hoping her priorities are shifting and she can influence him for the better.
167 posted on 10/22/2003 6:24:13 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter
Yeah, all this notoriety can't be good.
168 posted on 10/22/2003 6:35:25 PM PDT by Tuxedo (In Stereo Where Available)
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To: jwalsh07
Has there been any discussion as to who is paying for all of this care? If it is the state, is this case really an example of where we want our medical subsidy dollars to go? I am just curious as to your opinion. As you know, I am NOT is favor of spending mucho government dollars keeping alive folks in their eighties into their nineties, particularly if in a decrepit state. I am in favor of a triage system.
169 posted on 10/22/2003 6:35:54 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
If it is the state, is this case really an example of where we want our medical subsidy dollars to go? I am just curious as to your opinion.

The hospice is providing it gratis, most likely because Felos (on the Board of Directors when Terri entered) didn't want to set of alarm bells by paying for it from Terri's trust.

170 posted on 10/22/2003 6:46:15 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat
I don't know enough about the matter to make much sense of your post. That is due to my ignorance, not the quality of your post.
171 posted on 10/22/2003 6:49:35 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
I don't know enough about the matter to make much sense of your post. That is due to my ignorance, not the quality of your post.

I am conjecturing that if the hospice isn't charging anyone for Terri's stay, some of the restriction that would normally apply might be eased. I don't know, but maybe it could claim to be a hospice for everyone else and a free boarding house for Terri or something.

172 posted on 10/22/2003 6:53:47 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: isrul
That's a false statement

Take it up with the Judge.

173 posted on 10/22/2003 6:53:54 PM PDT by The Shootist
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To: spunkets
The docs didn't just misdiagnose, they lied. They perjured themselves for the record and Judge Greer played a part in that.

Welcome.

174 posted on 10/22/2003 7:08:40 PM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: Torie
Very few are which is why most of us have living wills. But the state can not make issue decrees that 39 year old women be straved to death when their is more than reasonable doubt as to her wishes and her prognosis.
175 posted on 10/22/2003 7:08:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: EggsAckley
Money, my mam, money.

Anytime a murderer, a shyster lawyer, and a crooked judge collaborate it spells disaster for someone.
176 posted on 10/22/2003 7:13:01 PM PDT by sport
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To: jwalsh07
Ya, but suppose the state has to spend $200,000 a year to keep her alive? I don't think it is a mere matter of feeding. Maybe it is in this case due to special circumstances, I don't know. Of course, it Terri has insurance which covers this, then my comments are inapposite.
177 posted on 10/22/2003 7:16:47 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
It is a mere matter of feeding, changing diapers and keeping her clean and happy. Not much cost invovled there, they can do it at home. The rehab has associated costs but in this case there will be none because those services have been volunteered.
178 posted on 10/22/2003 7:20:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Torie
She has no need to be in hospice, the only reason she's been there these years is because Schiavo and his Ghoul see that as the kicking off point so to speak.
179 posted on 10/22/2003 7:22:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: FreedomMan_CA
May I suggest you take a look at this QuickTime movie with Terri interacting with her mother? It takes about five minutes, and there's not one single edit the entire time. She laughs, she smiles, she tries to speak to her mother, she follows directions, she looks her mother in the eyes, she looks over at her dad and then back at her mom when her mom says, "Look at me." I challenge you to look at that entire movie and THEN come back and say whether or not the Schindlers are delusional about her PVS state, or that she is merely "reacting to stimuli" as you put it. Five minutes, that's all it takes. (That, and a program that will play movie files.)
180 posted on 10/22/2003 7:23:14 PM PDT by shezza (They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength...they shall mount up with wings as eagles!)
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