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To: Jean Chauvin
Jean Chauvin, you only quote ONE man although you say you look to no man but scripture alone. But what scripture? Do you include the 'straw episle of James', which Luther arbitrarily and unilaterally rejected and omitted because it contradicted his novel 'faith alone' hypothesis and which even later embarrased Lutherans added back?
16 posted on 11/02/2003 7:34:02 PM PST by Rushian
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To: Rushian
Jean Chauvin, you only quote ONE man although you say you look to no man but scripture alone. But what scripture? Do you include the 'straw episle of James', which Luther arbitrarily and unilaterally rejected and omitted because it contradicted his novel 'faith alone' hypothesis and which even later embarrased Lutherans added back?

Luther did not like the book of James..but he never omitted it.

There is a general misreading of that book that teaches that James was teaching a work based salvation..that was not true then and it is not true now,

The Book of James addresses not how God sees our justification..but how the world does.

We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that saves is never alone.

17 posted on 11/02/2003 8:19:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Rushian
"Jean Chauvin, you only quote ONE man although you say you look to no man but scripture alone. But what scripture?"

Predictable response which shows that you don't understand the concept of Sola Scriptura.

Sola Scriptura does not forbid us to quote people. Sola Scriptura tells us that our final authority is Scripture alone -not the "Pope".

I was pointing to Luther's words as he laid out the issue far better than I could hope to. Nonetheless, Luther's beliefs and doctrines must finally be supported by Scripture -which they are and which is why he was so influential.

"Do you include the 'straw episle of James', which Luther arbitrarily and unilaterally rejected and omitted because it contradicted his novel 'faith alone' hypothesis and which even later embarrased Lutherans added back?"

Straw Man. No Protestant would argue that Luther was infallible. That's a Catholic problem, not a Protestant problem.

Furthermore, one need only to read from the (supposedly "Roman Catholic") Ante-Nicene Fathers to see some of their disagreement with various books of Scripture. Are you as a Roman Catholic not bound to the "Tradition" they left?

Jean

19 posted on 11/03/2003 11:04:31 AM PST by Jean Chauvin (Sola Scriptura---Sola Fida---Sola Gracia---Sola Christus---Soli Deo Gloria)
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