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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 5 -7, 2003
Various | November 5, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/05/2003 12:14:25 AM PST by sweetliberty

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To: mickie
I feel that she was too trusting and naive, and Michael was a controlling, overbearing husband. That she was unhappy in her marriage and contemplating divorce just prior to her "collapse" certainly adds to my suspicions about what really happened. Michael's behavior immediately following her "collapse" and his behavior in the years following, the extramarital affairs, the children out of wedlock, melting down her wedding rings, having her pets put to sleep, keeping her parents away from her, not allowing rehabilitation, etc. all indicate a pattern of cruelty, abuse and neglect.
1,161 posted on 11/08/2003 3:41:09 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: Ethan_Allen
Very good research on the Florida laws, thanks. The entire site at http://www.oscnewsgazette.com/ is down - you might want to try the link later.
1,162 posted on 11/08/2003 3:45:51 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: msmagoo
Could you please post the picture and article from The Catholic Standard & Times in the new 'Terri's Fight'.

Because it was posted after we went on to the new thread, many folks didn't have a chance to see it.

1,163 posted on 11/08/2003 3:47:03 PM PST by mickie
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To: pc93
Excellent! But can we add killing her two cats as well? (I'm a pet lover. Anyone who would kill their loved one's pets is awful as far as I'm concerned...:)
1,164 posted on 11/08/2003 4:02:38 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: mickie
Will do!
1,165 posted on 11/08/2003 5:07:44 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: T'wit
Who knew death was an "experience" to be lived, like seeing Grand Canyon or hiking the Appalachian Trail??
1,166 posted on 11/09/2003 12:05:36 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: Theodore R.
But aren't we SO thrilled to be able to say: FORMER public servant???????????
1,167 posted on 11/09/2003 12:11:51 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: atruelady
I also believe he put his parents "down" too. Loves that situation, it seems. And he continues to portray himself as a "victim." What an evil piece of garbage. KARMA KARMA KARMA.
1,168 posted on 11/09/2003 12:24:58 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: Chocolate Rose
NRL News Article - May, 2001 Parents Fight for Daughter - Brain-Damaged Woman Faces Threat of Court-Ordered Starvation

By Liz Townsend

In a dramatic turn of events, after enduring 60 hours of court-ordered starvation and dehydration, a Florida woman with severe brain damage received food and fluids when new evidence emerged contradicting her husband's claims that she would have wanted to die, the St. Petersburg Times reported.

Michael Schiavo's attempts to remove his wife's feeding tube are strongly opposed by Terri's parents, who are now "financially strapped" after years spent fighting court battles to keep their daughter alive, the St. Petersburg Times reported. But Terri Schindler-Schiavo's feedings may again be discontinued if her husband's petition to a court of appeals is successful.

Terri Schindler-Schiavo, now 37, has been in a condition of diminished consciousness after a heart attack 11 years ago. She collapsed at her home on February 25, 1990, and her brain was deprived of oxygen for five minutes, according to the Times.

Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, insist that their daughter, now living at Hospice House Woodside in Pinellas Park, "reacts to them with smiles, laughter, and moans during visits," according to the Tampa Tribune. However, doctors say she is in a "vegetative state" and that any movements she makes are merely "reflex."

The Schindlers refuse to give up on their hopes that Terri's condition will one day improve. "It's my daughter's life," Bob Schindler told the Times. "I will fight for her until I die. Any parent would."

The court battles began in May 1998 when Terri Schindler-Schiavo's husband Michael requested that her feeding tube be removed, the Times reported. On February 11, 2000, Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer granted Schiavo's request, ruling that the tube would be removed 30 days after the Schindlers had exhausted all appeals.

Judge Greer's decision was based largely on Michael Schiavo's assertion that, before her heart attack, Terri told him she would not want to live on artificial life support, the Miami Herald reported. "She said, 'No tubes for me,' that kind of thing," Mr. Schiavo's attorney George Felos told the Miami Herald.

The Schindlers insist that Michael Schiavo, who has been engaged to another woman for several years, is also motivated by a million-dollar malpractice settlement awarded to Terri Schindler-Schiavo in 1993, according to the Herald. Pat Anderson, the Schindlers' attorney, stated bluntly to the Associated Press, "Mr. Schiavo has engaged in a course of conduct so he can kill his wife and inherit her estate."

The settlement came from a malpractice suit filed by Michael Schiavo against Terri's doctors, who failed to detect the low potassium levels that caused her heart attack. Over $700,000 is left, since the rest has been used to pay Mrs. Schindler-Schiavo's medical costs.

"[The Schindlers] have encouraged Schiavo to divorce Terri and move on with his life," the Herald reported. "They say he refuses because he no longer would inherit her estate."

Michael Schiavo has repeatedly denied the Schindlers' charges. "The money has never been a concern of his," Felos told the Herald.

The 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Judge Greer's decision in January 2001. Both the Florida Supreme Court and the U.S. Supreme Court refused the Schindlers' requests to intervene in the case.

"I just can't understand why these judges are in such a hurry to starve my daughter to death," said Bob Schindler, according to the Times. "I just don't understand. I just think it's cruel. Essentially, they treat coldblooded murderers with more kindness."

Terri Schindler-Schiavo received what was supposed to be her last feeding at 8 a.m. on April 24. For the next two days she was not given the vitamin-enhanced beverage that provided her with life-sustaining nutrition and hydration.

News reports parroted euthanasia advocates' rhetoric that death by starvation and dehydration is just like going to sleep. "People don't suffer," Dr. Vince Perron, associate medical director at Life-Path Hospice in Tampa, told the Times. "It's a peaceful, comfortable way to die." But the Schindlers see Terri's death by starvation as inhumane and cruel.

"The Schindlers say their daughter would starve to death," USA Today reported, "but Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, said she would suffer a chemical imbalance and just 'fade away.'"

In a surprising development, however, new evidence surfaced that called into question Michael Schiavo's reported claims that his wife clearly rejected life support. His former girlfriend, Cyndi Shook, came forward and said that Schiavo told her that his wife never spoke about her wishes, according to the Times.

Shook told the Times that she asked him what his wife would have wanted and he replied, "How ...should I know? She was 25 years old and we did not talk about it."

Armed with Shook's statements, the Schindlers asked first Judge Greer and then Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge Frank Quesada to resume the feedings until Shook could testify. Greer rejected the request.

However, Judge Quesada granted a temporary injunction and ordered the hospice to feed Schindler-Schiavo. "I don't think there is anything that's more final or irreparable than death," Quesada said, according to the Times. She was fed for the first time in 60 hours at around 8:30 p.m. April 26.

Michael Schiavo filed an emergency petition with the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals on April 30 asking the feedings to again be stopped. "My wife Theresa is entitled to die with dignity," he said in a statement, the Associated Press reported. "This heinous act is an affront to her and is a violation of her most sacred rights of liberty."

The Schindlers pledged to continue fighting for their daughter. "I wouldn't wish this experience on anybody," Bob Schindler told the Times. "It's been horrible. . . . What we're ultimately trying to do is keep Terri alive."

1,169 posted on 11/09/2003 12:33:25 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: All
Cyndi Shook
Senior Living Specialties, Inc.
3861 5th Avenue North
St. Petersburg, FL 33713
727/328-8308
727/328-8338 (fax)
cyndishook@aol.com (email)

Associated Home Health Industries of Florida, Inc. Board

1,170 posted on 11/09/2003 12:36:31 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
How 'bout emailing Glenn Beck and having him announce his wish that his audience send Terri birthday cards or get involved sending Felon-os Thanksgiving >>>for life>>> cards?? He's been so supportive.
1,171 posted on 11/09/2003 12:43:47 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: Coral Snake
I would be SO appreciative if you or someone could please refresh our memories on the names of the judges to be on alert to fire on the FL Supreme bench. I've asked over on the FL Freeper page, but no response. I want to get those names burned in my brain terminally!
1,172 posted on 11/09/2003 12:59:28 AM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE DO something to save Terri Schiavo: email, call, fax, vigil,pray, GOD SAVE TERRI)
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To: STARWISE
Sorry but I have placed myself under voluntary suspension because I am in extreamly thin ice with some of my latest posts here. I will be studying the Free Republic posting rules in their entirety and going to other forums I am committed to for the next two or three days you may be able to find some with the answers to your questions on the new Terri daily thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1017264/posts

1,173 posted on 11/09/2003 1:32:45 AM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: STARWISE
> Who knew death was an "experience" to be lived, like seeing Grand Canyon or hiking the Appalachian Trail??

You get to "experience" eight to ten days of increasing agony along with fading, desperate hopes, and finally the realization that you have been betrayed by the human race.

1,174 posted on 11/09/2003 1:34:05 AM PST by T'wit
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To: STARWISE
I wouldn't waste the stamp on Felos. The more we ignore him and act like he doesn't matter, the better.

It would feed his ego to get mail...even negative mail from everyone.

We are thankful for Terri and her family. So, we should send cards. I think a mass card mailing for her birthday to the hospice would be terrific. We could send Schiavo Happy Anniversary cards to the Marrie Street address where he lives with his tramp.
1,175 posted on 11/09/2003 10:46:51 AM PST by atruelady
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To: nicmarlo
I noticed what "number" your post was in describing the "model husband" Schiavo!

You know, most of the stuff you listed, if not all in some states, he could go to jail for.

It is a shame because someone is disabled they don't get fair treatment.

Greer better get his act together.
1,176 posted on 11/09/2003 10:49:40 AM PST by atruelady
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To: atruelady
I noticed what "number" your post was in describing the "model husband" Schiavo!

sweetliberty noticed that first. Very weird, indeed!

most of the stuff you listed, if not all in some states, he could go to jail for. It is a shame because someone is disabled they don't get fair treatment. Greer better get his act together.

The best chance is now, with the Gov. and top notch attorneys on the team......and now he's definitely being watched much more than before.

1,177 posted on 11/09/2003 10:53:28 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: STARWISE
Here's a few to start with, the Florida Supreme Kangaroo Court. Get rid of them ALL!


Chief Justice Harry Lee Anstead 
Justice Charles T. Wells 
Justice Barbara J. Pariente 
Justice R. Fred Lewis 
Justice Peggy A. Quince 
Justice Raoul G. Cantero, III 
Justice Kenneth B. Bell 

1,178 posted on 11/09/2003 10:58:13 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: STARWISE
75. CHARLES T. WELLS* 1994- Merit retention vote 2008
76. HARRY LEE ANSTEAD 1994- Mandatory retirement 2009
77. BARBARA J. PARIENTE 1997- Merit retention vote 2006
78. R. FRED LEWIS 1999- Merit retention vote 2006
79. PEGGY A. QUINCE 1999- Merit retention vote 2006
80. RAOUL G. CANTERO, III 2002- Merit retention vote 2004
81. KENNETH B. BELL 2003- Merit retention vote 2004
1,179 posted on 11/09/2003 10:59:38 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Ethan_Allen; sweetliberty
Great post, EA! Thanks for the ping, sl.
1,180 posted on 11/09/2003 12:07:58 PM PST by windchime
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