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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The talkathon had very little to do with getting democrats to change their votes. That is not going to happen.

This is about changing votes in senate elections in 2004.

If a few more votes of hispanics, blacks, and women can be pried away from the Democrats on this issue, it may be possible to pick up 5 or 6 seats in the senat in 2004.

If the pubies in the 2004 election can get to 55 or 56 seats they can threaten and bribe 5 or so demorat votes to override any filibuster.

There is no way a Democrat will change his vote before the election. But if 5 or 6 Democratic senators that helped defeat cloture are defeated at the polls next year, several of the surviving Demorats will fold and allow a vote. But if the PUbies can get 55 or 56 Republicans in the senate, they can bribe 4 or 5 DINOs to get anything they want.

That is what the 39 hours was about.

3 posted on 11/14/2003 4:27:52 PM PST by Common Tator (I support Billybob. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Common Tator
The talkathon had very little to do with getting democrats to change their votes. That is not going to happen. This is about changing votes in senate elections in 2004. If a few more votes of hispanics, blacks, and women can be pried away from the Democrats on this issue, it may be possible to pick up 5 or 6 seats in the senat in 2004.

I wish this would happen, but I don't think very many people were paying attention.
And I doubt if many people were aware that the judicial nominies in question were black or hispanic.

IMHO this publicity stunt was probably not very effective.

5 posted on 11/14/2003 4:37:33 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Common Tator
I'm NOT convinced by this weak display..

If the Republicans REALLY want to expose and discredit the lunatic Democrats behind this destructive practice - they would do something a LOT more effective than TALKING for hours...

It's long past time to get down and dirty with the bastards..

Force a REAL filibuster...
Demand the expulsion from the Senate for whomever was behind the Intelligence Committe "Memo".
Demand censure for that bloated, drunken murderous Kennedy..

Is the Republican Senate leaderless, or are they COMPROMISED by the FBI folders with the lovely Hillary?

In either event.....I am Unconvinced and Unimpressed..

Semper Fi
6 posted on 11/14/2003 4:39:21 PM PST by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: Common Tator
"This is about changing votes in senate elections in 2004."

I'm glad you were able to make some sense of it because, frankly, the entire excercise made no sense to me. Unless of course Frist wanted to demonstrate just how impotent the GOP is in the senate, in which case it was a resounding success.

14 posted on 11/14/2003 5:40:03 PM PST by Pietro
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To: Common Tator
No. Actually, I expect, when the GOP picks up a few Senate seats, they will open the next Congress by clearly stating in the rules that judicial nominees cannot be filibustered. Although the Senate typically requires 2/3 majority to set the rules each Congress, that is clearly unconstitutional as no new Congress is bound by rules set by a previous Congress. That is when things will change.
16 posted on 11/14/2003 5:58:31 PM PST by Timmy
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To: Common Tator
The talkathon had very little to do with getting democrats to change their votes. That is not going to happen.

This is about changing votes in senate elections in 2004.

If a few more votes of hispanics, blacks, and women can be pried away from the Democrats on this issue, it may be possible to pick up 5 or 6 seats in the senat in 2004.

Not going to happen... Just like in the movie, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," the press is in the hip pocket of the demonRATs, but this time, there's no "Boy Rangers" to get the word out... Well, almost... Fox News played the part of the Boy Rangers, but that was it...

Every bit of news coverage that I heard either made light of what the republicans were doing, or droned on and on over how many Bush appointees have been approved, versus how many Clinton appointees were denied... Of course, they never mention how many of the Clinton appointees were DENIED A VOTE!!! (for those of you not keeping track, i.e. DU Trolls, ZERO! All the Clinton appointees who were refused were voted down by the Senate, just like the Constitution demands!

I honestly believe that the Republicans did one thing wrong here, and that was in their timing. They should have timed it so that the debate was still going on when Rush gets back on the air! He could have focused far more attention on it then just Fox News alone. Hopefully, he'll start beating on the topic when he first gets back.

Mark

22 posted on 11/14/2003 7:31:08 PM PST by MarkL (Chiefs 9-0! Wheeeeee!!!!!)
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