[taiwansemi]

Cronos wrote: "More commie propaganda. By your definition democracy should not have worked in 18th century America or 19th century Europe. Don't spout any more commie propaganda stating that the people need a Glorious leader to rule like in China or in N Korea."

By the start of the 18th century, both America and Europe had large middle-class population. I suggest you actually read your old high school history book. These middle-classes came about as a result of the Industrial Revolution and were called the "bourgeoisie." It wasn's peasants who led the American and French Revolutions, introducing modern democracy, but the bourgeoisie/middle-classes. Did you even know that half the signers of the U.S. Declaration of Independence were in the business of international trade, i.e. middle-men? And America's biggest complaint with England was excessive, burdensome taxation: "No taxation without representation!" It's not poor peasants who don't have money to tax to begin with that are worried about over-taxation. It's people who have money that can be taxed--i.e., middle-classes--that started Revolutions in America and Europe to escape the burden of taxes!

[Cronos]

By the start of the 18th century, both America and Europe had large middle-class population

Read up -- the middle class wasn't a substantial force until the mid 1800s, that's when your Karl Marx came up with his Das Kapital in 1848

[Cronos]

Your definition -- that democracy doesn't work in a country with a majority nto middle class. WEll, the majority in Amrerica and Europe before the 20th centruy were NOT middle class. Democracy works everywhere except in your commie paradise.