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Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack
News Max.Com ^ | 11-21-03

Posted on 11/20/2003 5:14:53 PM PST by hope

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To: Momaw Nadon
Revelation, I believe - "Wars, and rumours of wars."
161 posted on 11/20/2003 7:02:44 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
And it should make you and everyone else uneasy. Just look at how our country's beliefs, morals, standards, religion, family, law and order have all eroded. Think about it.
162 posted on 11/20/2003 7:03:27 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: Monty22
A lot of land would be uninhabitable.

Only many dirty nukes could contaminate enough land to create a significant food supply problem. Conventional explosives with radioactive material cannot contaminate a large area.

I'm sure there would be some level of disorder, but the U.S. would not fall apart even if there were a nuke detonated in a U.S. city.

163 posted on 11/20/2003 7:04:00 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Gen. MacArthur ran the country. A defacto military government and imposed a constitution on Japan.
164 posted on 11/20/2003 7:05:39 PM PST by Calamari
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To: Cautor
Actually, employment would probably get better; our gov't would imposed a martial law type fascist system; worked wonders for Germany.
165 posted on 11/20/2003 7:07:17 PM PST by streetpreacher
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To: Momaw Nadon
Yes, it does sound that way. Maybe someone will tell us for sure. Thanks though.
166 posted on 11/20/2003 7:07:34 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
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To: oceanview
"a large part of the judiciary currently seated on the bench has ALREADY thrown away the constitution, we have to take the country back from them."

AMEN!
167 posted on 11/20/2003 7:08:52 PM PST by MOX (freedom aint free)
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To: cubreporter
"You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come." Matthew 24:6

168 posted on 11/20/2003 7:09:19 PM PST by GWfan
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To: cubreporter
See post 161 by tacticalogic.
169 posted on 11/20/2003 7:09:36 PM PST by Momaw Nadon (The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work unless it's open.)
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To: MediaMole
Franks sounds like he expects the people to demand security from the politicians who will comply by setting up a police state.

That he does and I see he has good reason to so fear..
170 posted on 11/20/2003 7:11:05 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Merely having a CCW permit is tantamount to having one's guns registered (in most states that issue them).

CCW permit owners can turn in one gun and keep the rest.

171 posted on 11/20/2003 7:11:14 PM PST by Rightone
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To: hope
As far as I'm concerned, the constitution has been suspended for some time. Historians will argue about the date it effectively became "a living document" but I reckon most will settle on 1973.

That said, a WMD attack--particularly a nuclear one--would force us to declare war on someone. I don't know that anyone would take the trouble to officially declare the Constitution null. We'll just have a dictatorship along the lines of the Lincoln or FDR administrations. AND -- I think that the Republic would be reinvigorated in the aftermath, just as it was following the Civil War and WWII...
172 posted on 11/20/2003 7:11:52 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: commish
I think you have the correct scenario. Martial law along with a realization that foreign national potential combatants have no civil rights along with illegals from all parts of the world. Certain rights might be temporarily suspended (as Lincoln did during the Civil War) in order to restore order and prevent certain groups from creating chaos in the large population areas. There are plenty of homegrown scumbags who would take advantage of a catastrophe to further their own goals or themselves. In the long run, we would return to our basic constitutional form of representative republic, and I am convinced that this would occur pretty quickly.
173 posted on 11/20/2003 7:15:01 PM PST by RJS1950
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To: Jeff Head
If we're hit with a nuke, the economy will suffer for a time, but we will do what is necessary to make sure it never happens again. That means sending the muslims back to the middle east, or northern africa, or whatever 3rd world fascist dump they've made for themselves. Let's not pretend that the founders desired our present form of immigration. They never imagined we would be this stupid.
174 posted on 11/20/2003 7:16:06 PM PST by Deport Billary
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To: hope
But Franks’ scenario goes much further. He is the first high-ranking official to openly speculate that the Constitution could be scrapped in favor of a military form of government

Why do I get the feeling this isn't exactly what he said .. that there is more to his comment

175 posted on 11/20/2003 7:19:25 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Jeff Head
.....This nation can survive and rise above anything any enemy throws at us, including a WMD attack. That does not sound like sticking ones head in the sand. This doomsday, the constitution is dead or will die talk is the talk of people with heads in the sand or somewhere else where the sun does not shine.....

Thank you, Mr. Head. This is an interesting and thought provoking topic and worthy of serious discussion, but anyone who believes this nation will go down because of one traumatic event is wrong. Yes, it is possible that the Constitution might be set aside for a short period, but there are too many of us who would fight to ensure that it was put right back into place after we took care of the immediate threat.

176 posted on 11/20/2003 7:21:34 PM PST by Rightone
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To: Deport Billary
They never imagined we would be this stupid.

Did the internet save our sorry asses just in time or what?

177 posted on 11/20/2003 7:21:48 PM PST by txhurl
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To: fiscally_right
I would hope that such a scenerio would be temporary.. I don't think there would be a military-stype government per se, but the military and the government would be afforded great liberty in the way they (dis)obey the constitution. I don't ever want to see my city streets policed by the military..

If WMD ever hit our shores .. I agree things would get nasty .. But we should NEVER throw our Constitution to the curb for even a minute

The Constitution is the foundation of a Country

178 posted on 11/20/2003 7:25:43 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Constitutional Patriot
Correct.

How many more 9/11's are we expected to endure?
179 posted on 11/20/2003 7:27:19 PM PST by tubavil
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To: Malsua
Lets hope these Islamofascists are all turban and no Jihad.

Lets hope the FBI is doing a good enough job to stop an attack but with our porous borders I don't see how they can keep track of everything.
I hope Iran and Syria realize what might happen if this attack does occur because who do we strike out at ? The Saudis covered their butts by being attacked by Al Queda a few times. This is series.
180 posted on 11/20/2003 7:29:24 PM PST by John Lenin
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