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Whites and the Next Racial Clash in America
Time ^ | 12/05/03 | JACK E. WHITE

Posted on 12/05/2003 5:44:11 PM PST by freedom44

According to political scientist Carol M. Swain's unsettling new book, "The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration," the U.S. is on the brink of an explosion of white "tribalism" that could trigger unprecedented levels of racial antagonism and an epidemic of violence. The underlying cause: a swelling "white nationalist" movement fueled by simmering resentment of affirmative action programs like those used by the University of Michigan. "The book is a wake-up call to warn people that we're following a dangerous course by pushing identity politics and multi-culturalism," explains the Vanderbilt law school professor. "There's nothing special about the U.S. that says we couldn't have ethnic cleansing and violence here like in Bosnia or Rwanda."

It's shocking to hear such a dire prophesy from a scholar like Swain, who is rapidly establishing herself as one of the leaders of a new, increasingly vocal neoconservative brand of black political analysis that rejects affirmative action and reparations for slavery and holds blacks responsible for their own uplift. Until recently, most left-leaning black theorists derided her as a hopeless optimist. Her previous book, "Black Faces, Black Interests," ruffled many black politicians by dismissing their fear that a Supreme Court ruling that struck down the use of race in the creation of majority black congressional districts would be a disaster. Instead, Swain predicted, the ruling actually would be good for African Americans. As she foresaw, even in the Deep South strong black candidates were capable of winning enough support from whites to prevail in districts where black voters were outnumbered. She also argued that disbursing blacks into mostly-white districts could make it easier for liberal Democrats to compete with conservative Republicans by building multi-racial coalitions. Blacks "need more representation of their liberal views of policy than they need people who look like them" in Congress, Swain contended. Anyone looking at the toothlessness of the Congressional Black Caucus in the Republican-dominated House would find it difficult to disagree.

But, as Swain says, she "turned from a Pollyanna into a Cassandra" as her research into a book criticizing racial preferences made her aware of the spread of what she calls "the new white nationalism," a form of racial extremism more dangerous than the Ku Klux Klan because of its veneer of erudition and mastery of the Internet. Groups such as former Klansman David Duke's National Organization for European American Rights and the National Association of White People eschew the discredited notion of white supremacy. Indeed, they don't claim that whites are superior to anyone else and may even be inferior to Asians.

Instead they push the notion over websites, in publications such as Jared Taylor's "American Renaissance " magazine and through on-campus recruiting drives that all racial groups have unique interests and the god-given right to fulfill their destiny. They see themselves, as Swain has written, as "defenders of the legitimate civil rights of white people against what they allege are a host of racial double standards." In short, that affirmative action has made whites the most discriminated-against group in the country and that it can only get worse as a tide of immigrants transforms the U.S. from a white nation into a rickety Third World republic. The language white nationalists use to promote their insights is stunningly familiar to anyone who has listened to black nationalists like Louis Farrakhan — but that's not surprising, since the white nationalists appropriated it. As Swain observes, "the multicultural left has provided a language that works very well for whites who want to push white-identity politics," says Swain. "They say that if it's good for blacks to celebrate their heritage, it's good for whites to celebrate theirs."

What concerns Swain the most is such groups now seem to be finding an audience among mainstream whites whose gripes about racial preferences and high crime rates among blacks have been tuned out by white liberal politicians. Though she has no proof that the membership of such groups is mushrooming, their influence is being felt widely. Indeed, some of the rhetoric used by white nationalists is indistinguishable from the verbiage used by President Bush in his assault on the "quotas" supposedly used by the University of Michigan. "If we keep going down this road, it's going to increasingly pit racial groups against each other," she warns. "Some white people, who are otherwise good people, who don't hate blacks, are going to be pushed into the arms of these extremists if we don't change course."

Swain thinks there's only one way out of this bind: recognizing that whites have "legitimate" beefs about race that should be openly debated by politicians and scholars. She also believes we should immediately do away with racial preferences in university admissions, hiring and government contracts that not only fuel white resentment but send the message to blacks that they can't meet the same standards as everyone else. Swain's detractors say such steps amount to no more than a cowardly capitulation to racism, but she won't back down because she does not believe that blacks need the crutch provided by race-conscious policies. For Swain, a deeply devout evangelical Christian, such beliefs are not academic. Now 49, she went from being a high school drop-out and single mother in rural Virginia to a Ph.d and a chair at a leading university. "Somehow, we've got to embrace an American national identity that pulls us together instead of dividing us into warring camps," says Swain, "perhaps through a renewed emphasis on the Judeo-Christian idea of a common creator and the brotherhood of man." It's an old-fashioned idea that could prevent Swain's troubling predictions from coming true.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bookreview; carolswain; newwhitenationalism; preferences
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To: Travis McGee
I have never been anywhere in the world where when TSHTF that ethnic or religious or racial identity was not pivotal.

We are a young Republic, I doubt we will be much different nor have we been in the past.

However, there are other forces at work that will do the job prior to racial/ethnic tensions. Unfortunately, some folks of particular races and religions are mostly in one camp or the other.

I see all of this as unavoidable baring a cataclysm instigated by a third party.
61 posted on 12/05/2003 6:39:59 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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To: Mr. Jeeves
That's an interesting point.
62 posted on 12/05/2003 6:40:07 PM PST by Ramius
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To: thoughtomator
Walter Williams brought up this subject. He appealed to all the blacks who wanted to start a race war to count how many blacks are in the country vs. how many whites. His conclusion was the blacks are a bit out numbered.
63 posted on 12/05/2003 6:40:44 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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64 posted on 12/05/2003 6:40:48 PM PST by mhking
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To: freedom44
"Swain thinks there's only one way out of this bind: recognizing that whites have "legitimate" beefs about race that should be openly debated by politicians and scholars. She also believes we should immediately do away with racial preferences in university admissions, hiring and government contracts that not only fuel white resentment but send the message to blacks that they can't meet the same standards as everyone else. Swain's detractors say such steps amount to no more than a cowardly capitulation to racism, but she won't back down because she does not believe that blacks need the crutch provided by race-conscious policies. For Swain, a deeply devout evangelical Christian, such beliefs are not academic. Now 49, she went from being a high school drop-out and single mother in rural Virginia to a Ph.d and a chair at a leading university."

Hmmmm.....does she know Starr Parker?

65 posted on 12/05/2003 6:41:57 PM PST by goodnesswins (A man who will fight for nothing, will NEVER be free.)
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To: freedom44
What concerns Swain the most is such groups now seem to be finding an audience among mainstream whites whose gripes about racial preferences and high crime rates among blacks have been tuned out by white liberal politicians. Though she has no proof that the membership of such groups is mushrooming, their influence is being felt widely. Indeed, some of the rhetoric used by white nationalists is indistinguishable from the verbiage used by President Bush in his assault on the "quotas" supposedly used by the University of Michigan. "If we keep going down this road, it's going to increasingly pit racial groups against each other," she warns. "Some white people, who are otherwise good people, who don't hate blacks, are going to be pushed into the arms of these extremists if we don't change course."

Which road is the road to ruin? was it the quota road or the non quota road? Im so confused.

66 posted on 12/05/2003 6:43:26 PM PST by mylife
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To: Dallas59
I agree
67 posted on 12/05/2003 6:43:40 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: Dallas59
According to political scientist Carol M. Swain's unsettling new book, "The New Black Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration," the U.S. is on the brink of an explosion of black "tribalism" that could trigger unprecedented levels of racial antagonism and an epidemic of violence. The underlying cause: a swelling "black nationalist" movement fueled by simmering resentment of intelligent, successful, hard working whites like those that created America. "The book is a wake-up call to warn people that we're following a dangerous course by pushing identity politics and multi-culturalism," explains the Vanderbilt law school professor. "There's nothing special about the U.S. that says we couldn't have ethnic cleansing and violence here like in Zimbabwe."

68 posted on 12/05/2003 6:45:05 PM PST by afz400
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To: freedom44
Swain.....believes we should immediately do away with racial preferences in university admissions, hiring and government contracts that not only fuel white resentment but send the message to blacks that they can't meet the same standards as everyone else.

She's smart as well as pretty. The more racial preferences are pushed, the more likely such a backlash is.

69 posted on 12/05/2003 6:45:45 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat
Hope she's got body guards.....Jesse Jackson and his ilk are not likely to be likin' what she's sayin'......
70 posted on 12/05/2003 6:46:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (A man who will fight for nothing, will NEVER be free.)
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To: wardaddy
The third party are the liberals I hate so much.
71 posted on 12/05/2003 6:46:59 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: Ramius
Well then, what is the culture of the Spanish, they sure are different from the Germans or the Swedes?
72 posted on 12/05/2003 6:47:16 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: mylife
I'm calling BS on that one...sure whites are pissed that they receive uneven treatment in the name of "leveling the field" but epidemic violence?

The only circumstance where I could see a flash of white violence would be in response to a major riot -- where rioters come into white neighborhoods, wrech stuff, and kill a few people. In such a circumstance, it wouldn't be hard to round up a bunch for a retaliatory raid

73 posted on 12/05/2003 6:47:32 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Happiness is a belt-fed weapon)
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To: freedom44
"Some white people, who are otherwise good people, who don't hate blacks, are going to be pushed into the arms of these extremists if we don't change course."

How to make a racist out of a good person (and I have seen it happen):

1. Get a civil service job (let's say NYPD)
2. Take The Sergeant's Test and score a 95
3. Have a minority who failed the test (got below 65) and gets promoted to Sergeant and you don't
4. And presto - a decent white person who now hates all non-whites
5. Multiply by all the city, state and federal jobs

74 posted on 12/05/2003 6:48:31 PM PST by 2banana
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To: afz400
Apparently they have not looked close enough at Africa and Eastern Europe to see how tribalism keeps a society down. However, this is amazing. Historically black people were in chains,oppressed,and discriminated against and there hasn't been a nationwide swath of violence against people. White people are going to go crazy because of racial preferences??? I don't look so low upon Americans to think that way myself.
75 posted on 12/05/2003 6:49:29 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: 2banana
People can only be pushed if they want to. There are plenty of black people who are not racist towards whites despite the treatment they endured in this country.
76 posted on 12/05/2003 6:51:08 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: freedom44
OK, I admit THIS TIME I only read beyond post #4 or #5... However, it doesn't take a genius to point out that such mental giants as Charlie Manson were screaming the same thing, a race war, in the 70s... This is garbage. Everyone is too brainwashed, too focused on making the credit card payments, or the rent, or mortgage, to REALLY become angry and uprise, whether it be whites uprising against the taxes and discriminatation, or blacks uprising against being stereotyped by white liberals... There won't EVER, NEVER be a war between the races, because if any of us had the gumption to war, it would be against the tyranny we are slowly but surely being placed under!)
77 posted on 12/05/2003 6:52:35 PM PST by tinacart ((I still hate hitlery!!!))
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To: tinacart
THANK YOU... I read the whole thread and you didn't miss much. While I understand the author's intent, I do not believe there will ever be a race war. I'm very sorry to disappoint some, but not going to happen. I'm amazed at how people will readily give up on American ideals.
78 posted on 12/05/2003 6:54:32 PM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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To: RAY
Many of us have sensed the same!! People can only be pushed so far -- especially the grass roots citizens of the USA!!

You bet. And having the unfortunate experience of having to be in the 92 Los Angeles riots, I'll tell anyone here, it can happen, and will happen again. It was nothing short of war, with dozens brutally murdered, with brutal crippling effects on thousands of businesses and the economy.

I wouldn't advise anyone nowadays to be inside of large population centers. Compounded by the potential for riots and race wars, add terrorism, and the chances of a major event are very real. I've seen it close up.

Being about 120 miles from a major city, like NY, LA, Detroit, or Dallas, is very desirable, as one still has access to the city, yet is far enough away to be relatively safe.

79 posted on 12/05/2003 6:57:01 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: U S Army EOD
Walter Williams brought up this subject. He appealed to all the blacks who wanted to start a race war to count how many blacks are in the country vs. how many whites. His conclusion was the blacks are a bit out numbered.

A lot of "inner-city" blacks don't feel this in their gut. Remember they spend their entire day where they are the overwhelming majority, The "race-war" enthusiasts also might be counting on their being a more cohesive group than the white majority, and more willing to use violence.

A small force with high willingness to fight can prevail over a larger group with a lower cohesiveness and lower individual willingness to fight. Just ask the Israelis about their experiences in 1967 and 1973

80 posted on 12/05/2003 6:57:58 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Happiness is a belt-fed weapon)
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