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Is This the Death of the BCS? Oklahoma Loses!

Posted on 12/06/2003 8:29:48 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe

I cannot see how the BCS can send Oklahoma to the national championship game if the Sooners cannot even win their Conference championship.

It's time for a playoff system!


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And one of the best days in recent NFL history is tomorrow, complete with a snowstorm at one or more key games.
41 posted on 12/06/2003 9:09:11 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
What is really hilarious is that by Bitchslapping Georgia LSU probably screwed themselves out of a chance for the National Championship. it is pretty certain georgia will drop out of the top 10 and that will cost LSU the quality win points they must have to jump USC.

No matter what this shows that the BCS is a total Sham ... Polls will be USC #1, LSU #2, OU #3 -- leaving 2 scenarios.

1. #1 team in both polls out of Nat Champ game. Then winner of OU-LSU MUST be Nat Champ in AP, But USC will get a split in Coaches if they win Rose Bowl.

2. LSU is #2 and not in Nat Champ. in this scenario it does not matter what LSU does. USC wins they get #1 both polls. OU beats USC they WILL jump LSU in both polls no matter what LSU does.

42 posted on 12/06/2003 9:09:52 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Mr. Mojo
What I meant was that USC and OU would rather play each other in New Orleans than play LSU in New Orleans.
43 posted on 12/06/2003 9:10:29 PM PST by squidly
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To: drstevej
I don't think either USC or Oklahoma want to face the Tigerrs in New Orleans

Ridiculous. SC can and will beat anyone in the Nation.
They were the best team last year, as well. Remember Iowa?

44 posted on 12/06/2003 9:11:45 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Paleo Conservative
Nebraska did it in 2001. Colorado scored 62 points and beat Nebraska. That defeat kicked Nebraska out of the Big 12 championship game but not the national championship game

Yes yes, were still catching flak for that. I just want everyone everywhere to know that, Yes, Everyone in Nebraska even knew that we didnt deserve to be there, but what are you going to do?
45 posted on 12/06/2003 9:12:37 PM PST by Husker24
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To: squidly
I think any of the above teams will be happy just to make it to the title game, and couldn't care less about who their opponent is. The system is screwed beyond belief.
46 posted on 12/06/2003 9:14:03 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Husker24
but what are you going to do?

Fire the coach!

Oops, already did that...

47 posted on 12/06/2003 9:14:04 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: squidly
Actually, that's wrong. BCS was designed for when there wasn't a clear cut #1 and #2, or when the Rose Bowl screwed things up like they did in 1992 (?) when PSU went undefeated, played in the Rose, and Nebraska won the MNC.

It's very likely in this case that #1 and #2 (USC and LSU, assuming OU drops to at least #3, which is probable) will not play for a MNC. That is just flat out wrong.
48 posted on 12/06/2003 9:15:37 PM PST by Hurricane Andrew
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To: Mr. Mojo
I think any of the above teams will be happy just to make it to the title game, and couldn't care less about who their opponent is. The system is screwed beyond belief.

Generally speaking, I agree with all that. I'm not going to build up LSU any further, lest someone mistake me for a fan of their's. (EGAD)

49 posted on 12/06/2003 9:16:41 PM PST by squidly
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To: squidly
LSU is playing the best of the three

LSU (last 7 games)....

October 18 at South Carolina  W 33-7 6-1 (3-1 SEC)
October 25 No. 21 Auburn  W 31-7 7-1 (4-1 SEC)
November 1 Louisiana Tech  W 49-10 8-1 (4-1 SEC)
November 15 at Alabama  W 27-3 9-1 (5-1 SEC)
November 22 at No. 15 Mississippi  W 17-14 10-1 (6-1 SEC)
November 28 Arkansas  W 55-24 11-1 (7-1 SEC)
December 6 at No. 5 Georgia  W 34-13 12-1 (8-1 SEC)

TEAM RUSH PASS TOTAL
Offense 179 246.1 425.1
TEAM PF PA MARGIN
Scoring 34.9 10.8 24.2

USC (last 7 games)......

October 11 Stanford  W 44-21 5-1 (2-1 Pac-10)
October 18 at Notre Dame  W 45-14 6-1 (2-1 Pac-10)
October 25 at Washington  W 43-23 7-1 (3-1 Pac-10)
November 1 No. 6 Washington State  W 43-16 8-1 (4-1 Pac-10)
November 15 at Arizona  W 45-0 9-1 (5-1 Pac-10)
November 22 UCLA  W 47-22 10-1 (6-1 Pac-10)
December 6 Oregon State  W 52-28 11-1 (7-1 Pac-10)

TEAM RUSH PASS TOTAL
Offense 168.1 288.3 456.4
TEAM PF PA MARGIN
Scoring 42.2 18.8 23.4

50 posted on 12/06/2003 9:17:23 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: PRND21
Hopefully your thesis will be tested. Be warned, the Tigers are hungry.
51 posted on 12/06/2003 9:17:55 PM PST by drstevej
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To: PRND21
Ridiculous. SC can and will beat anyone in the Nation. They were the best team last year, as well.

Huh? Who has USC played this year? Let them play a full SEC schedule and see how they do.

52 posted on 12/06/2003 9:20:19 PM PST by mikegi
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To: hole_n_one
6 of USC's last 7 opponents were below average teams. In addition to the 3 ranked teams you see on that schedule for LSU, Arkansas is pretty good, and an argument can be made that in spite of their struggles, Alabama is not a pushover.
53 posted on 12/06/2003 9:20:25 PM PST by squidly
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BSU 7
HAW 7
0:09 1st Quarter

54 posted on 12/06/2003 9:21:41 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: drstevej; auboy
No disrespect towards the Tigers...I just want the Trojans in the big game.
I believe they deserve it, they have the longest winning streak of the one loss teams.
Yet ESPN is saying OU vs. LSU.

Good luck to LSU.

55 posted on 12/06/2003 9:22:57 PM PST by PRND21
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To: GOPyouth
gee-aucks?

hehe..just kidding
56 posted on 12/06/2003 9:23:56 PM PST by Bogey78O (Rob Reiner is a tubby fascist!)
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To: Skywalk
But they didn't because they're better.
57 posted on 12/06/2003 9:25:29 PM PST by Bogey78O (Rob Reiner is a tubby fascist!)
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To: Husker24
"Yes, Everyone in Nebraska even knew that we didnt deserve to be there, but what are you going to do?"

That's why I love Husker fans. They know football. I sat in their section at the Citrus Bowl when Georgia Tech waylayed them up and down the field. Nebraska fans know their football and that's why I respect them.
58 posted on 12/06/2003 9:25:39 PM PST by Beck_isright (If the UN left New York and the Demorats left D.C. forever, would that qualify as the 2nd coming?)
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To: mikegi
Huh? Who has USC played this year?

Who cares? They beat 11 of them.

59 posted on 12/06/2003 9:26:05 PM PST by PRND21
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To: mikegi
Who has USC played this year?

They beat (then 6th ranked) Washington St., 43 - 16.

60 posted on 12/06/2003 9:26:16 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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