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To: Sabertooth; Bob J
In a religion of over one billion, you could find millions who go either way on an issue. This latest link is from Hindus, who have not exactly been tolerant of Moslems in India. I'm inclined to take their claims with more than a few grains of salt.

I am far more inclined to belive at this point that Mr. Norquist's ties are being used as a weapon against him by people from three camps that I can identify.

The first camp consists of those who are envious of Mr. Norquist's success and influence and seek to bring him down.

The second camp comes from those who seem to think that some religions are more equal than others, to paraphrase George Orwell.

The third camp are those who view Norquist's brand of conservatism (particularly his "Leave Us Alone" coalition) as a form of heresy. They also do not seem to like the fact that he seems to have put forth an effort to create a political coalition that can win elections, which entails some compromises. In short, their sense of ideological purity is affected.

As Bob J has said elsewhere - the system ultimately worked, even if it was not as fast as some would desire.
94 posted on 12/09/2003 11:19:19 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: hchutch
In a religion of over one billion, you could find millions who go either way on an issue. This latest link is from Hindus, who have not exactly been tolerant of Moslems in India. I'm inclined to take their claims with more than a few grains of salt.

Yeah? How about the claims of the Israelis?

Your salt is absurd.

Muslims are killing people all over, of many faiths, whether Hindu, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, or animist. No other religion is doing that.

When those folks fight back against Muslims, it's not intolerance, it's self-defense. Not to say that there are never excesses or atrocities committed against Muslims, but you're rather deliberately confusing cause and effect.

I am far more inclined to belive at this point that Mr. Norquist's ties are being used as a weapon against him by people from three camps that I can identify.

What's the basis for your belief?

Why do you ignore and/or disbelieve all of the evidence against him?

The first camp consists of those who are envious of Mr. Norquist's success and influence and seek to bring him down.

Ad hominem. Address the evidence.

The second camp comes from those who seem to think that some religions are more equal than others, to paraphrase George Orwell.

Why would the Muslims try to bring down Norquist?

The third camp are those who view Norquist's brand of conservatism (particularly his "Leave Us Alone" coalition) as a form of heresy. They also do not seem to like the fact that he seems to have put forth an effort to create a political coalition that can win elections, which entails some compromises. In short, their sense of ideological purity is affected.

Yeah, I confess, at the point where the coalition seeks to include Jew-haters and terror sympathizers, I find that kinda heretical.

As Bob J has said elsewhere - the system ultimately worked, even if it was not as fast as some would desire.

This is a variation of the Clintonian "it's time to move on."

The system hasn't begun to work.

There has been an effort, prior to and during wartime, by Islamic Fifth Columnists to use Grover Norquist to influence the Bush Administration. This needs to be fully investigated, damge needs to be assessed, and the Fifth Columnists need to be rooted out. Then and only then will the system have worked.

There is far too much at risk in the War on Terror to sweep this under a rug, just because it's a Republican named Grover Norquist who's culpable.


101 posted on 12/09/2003 12:01:32 PM PST by Sabertooth (Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
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To: hchutch
Is it possible that some Free-market conservatives, who generally support outreach, are against this case?!
I support outreach to Muslims, not to ISLAMISTS.
Norquist is blind to the difference. I hope that you are not.
104 posted on 12/09/2003 1:40:24 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: hchutch
Hchutch with the awesome breakdown:

I am far more inclined to believe at this point that Mr. Norquist's ties are being used as a weapon against him by people from three camps that I can identify.

The first camp consists of those who are envious of Mr. Norquist's success and influence and seek to bring him down.

The second camp comes from those who seem to think that some religions are more equal than others, to paraphrase George Orwell.

The third camp are those who view Norquist's brand of conservatism (particularly his "Leave Us Alone" coalition) as a form of heresy. They also do not seem to like the fact that he seems to have put forth an effort to create a political coalition that can win elections, which entails some compromises. In short, their sense of ideological purity is affected.

Great dissection, Sir.

148 posted on 12/09/2003 8:33:26 PM PST by EverFree (Gonzalez for Mayor of SF! Rip out the demonrats' San Francisco heart !)
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