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Swiss parliament recognises Armenian genocide
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=105&sid=4555597 ^

Posted on 12/16/2003 12:18:28 PM PST by Mihalis

The House of Representatives has voted to officially recognise as genocide the 1915 killings of Armenians at the hands of Turkey.

The move comes almost three months after Ankara snubbed the Swiss foreign minister, Micheline Calmy-Rey, over a similar decision taken by a cantonal parliament.

On Tuesday, the house decided with 107 votes in favour, 67 against and 11 abstentions to recognise the massacre of up to 1.5 million ethnic Armenians during the Ottoman Empire.

The parliamentary chamber asked the Swiss government to inform Ankara of the vote through diplomatic channels.

The cabinet has in the past opposed adopting such a measure, arguing that it would “add to already charged relations between Turkey and Armenia”.

Reacting to the parliamentary decision, the foreign ministry said it hoped it would not have an adverse effect on relations with Turkey.

In a statement, Turkey's foreign ministry said it "strongly condemned and rejected the decision."

"It is unacceptable to unilaterally present as a genocide... these events that came out of the special conditions of the First World War and which caused great pain both for Turks and Armenians," the statement said.

"Parliament took this decision by considering domestic politics and by ignoring relations between Turkey and Switzerland and the feelings and thoughts of Turks in the country."

"It bears the responsibility for the negative consequences that the decision can lead to."

Swiss-based Armenian groups welcomed the vote.

Turkey strongly condemns and rejects the decision.

Turkish foreign ministry

Snub

In September, Ankara withdrew at the last minute an invitation to Calmy-Rey to travel to Turkey.

At the centre of the controversy was a decision by the parliament of canton Vaud to officially recognise the killings of Armenians as genocide.

At the time, Calmy-Rey told Swiss radio that the Turkish reaction to the move was “exaggerated”.

She regretted that Turkey’s step had “complicated bilateral relations” between the two countries.

Vaud was the second canton after Geneva to classify the Turkish campaign against the Armenians as genocide.

Armenian departure

From 1915, the Turkish authorities deported Armenians, whose land was divided between the Ottoman Empire and Russia, into the Mesopotamian desert.

The Turks feared that the Armenians would claim independence and that Christian Armenians would collaborate with Russia.

Some 1.5 million Armenians are said to have perished; Turkey disputes this, putting the figure closer to 200,000.

Ankara, which strenuously denies that the deaths constituted a genocide, has warned Bern in the past about giving official recognition to the massacre.

In 2001, the Swiss parliament narrowly voted against calling it a genocide, preferring to refer to the killings as “tragic events”.

The parliaments of a number of European countries, including France, Italy, Sweden, Russia, Greece and Belgium, have all recognised the Armenian killings as genocide.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armenia; armeniangenocide; genocide; switzerland; turkey
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1 posted on 12/16/2003 12:18:28 PM PST by Mihalis
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To: eleni121
ping
2 posted on 12/16/2003 12:19:08 PM PST by Mihalis
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To: Mihalis
To most of the world....ethnic cleansing did not occur before WW2....

/sarcasm

I just wonder what many countries, including the US have against not pointing the finger at the Turks regarding the Armenian genocide.

Let me guess......politics......

3 posted on 12/16/2003 12:26:14 PM PST by BossLady (Jailer: Yes, Saddam the Noriega Suite is available..........)
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To: Mihalis
Great News!
It's long over due.
Now if the US would only do the same.
4 posted on 12/16/2003 12:29:46 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: Mihalis
So much for Swiss neutrality... I guess 500+ years isn't too bad.
5 posted on 12/16/2003 12:30:35 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Mihalis
Justice delayed is in this case justice finally served.

As nation after nation recognizes the Muslim Turk genocide perpetrated against the Christians of Asia Minor, we can only hope that the US will also add its voice to the choir.

6 posted on 12/16/2003 12:34:16 PM PST by eleni121
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To: Mihalis
The parliaments of a number of European countries, including France, Italy, Sweden, Russia, Greece and Belgium, have all recognised the Armenian killings as genocide:

Lets see, it seems to me most of these countries are guilty or have an ax to grind against Turkey. The Frence are guity of failing to mount any defense against the Germans which allowed them to kill thousands of Jews; Italy was a German ally, Russia has committed genocide of it's own, Belgium is totally useless as is Sweden and the Greeks hate Turkey.
Point is what is gained by doing this; nothing, no one is alive today that had anything to do with.
7 posted on 12/16/2003 1:03:02 PM PST by wvnavyvet
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To: a_Turk; Destro
happy Bump
8 posted on 12/16/2003 1:04:05 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: BossLady
Why stop at Armenian: they murders .5 million Assyrian Christian, 2 million Aitolan Greek Christians, 500,000 Cypriot Greek Christian, 58,000 Kurds...and that only in this centuary.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 1:05:24 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: wvnavyvet
Do you blaim Soviet Goverment of 1980's for murders of Stalin in 1930's? If so, then Turkey is guilty since it revered father is mass murderer...also quite few still alive who survive Cyprus and Kurd massacres. Turks stone wall and commit mass murder on and on...that why it matter.
10 posted on 12/16/2003 1:07:51 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: wvnavyvet
Point is what is gained by doing this; nothing,

Agreed, what do dead Armenians (or even living Armenians) gain by this? European governments, I guess, get to say, "Well, sure we support Saddam Hussein, and every other available murderous dictator, but look what the Turks did in 1915! That was REALLY bad!" Noxious hypocrites.

11 posted on 12/16/2003 1:12:33 PM PST by Tax-chick (Nobody's indoctrinating MY children ... except me!)
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To: RussianConservative
My point was that those countries, including the Soviet Union (Russia) live in glass houses and shouldn't be throwing stones. Nothing is gained by this. The Kurds are hated not only by the Turks, but the Iraqis and the Iranians. THis sort of stuff happens too often all over the world. Where was Sweden, Belgium and Russia during the ()'s when it was happening in Africa?
12 posted on 12/16/2003 1:16:27 PM PST by wvnavyvet
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To: wvnavyvet
Soviet Unoin not Russia, big difference. Policies of Stalin not Russian. I blame Gorbachov and all before for Soviet murders of 1930s because they protected and perpetrate government. Turkey, modern, founded on bones of Christians. What difference?
13 posted on 12/16/2003 1:18:31 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: wvnavyvet
Where was US during the ()'s?
14 posted on 12/16/2003 1:19:07 PM PST by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Tax-chick
I'm just sick of the Europeans thinking they are holier than thou, they were the ones who raped Africa, the slave trade was one of their businesses. It's time say enough is enough, and let's do better from here on.
15 posted on 12/16/2003 1:20:38 PM PST by wvnavyvet
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To: RussianConservative
THis goes beyond Stalin of the 1930's and let's not forget how Russia is dealing with the Chehens. I see litle difference using your argument, forget it, move on.
16 posted on 12/16/2003 1:23:50 PM PST by wvnavyvet
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To: RussianConservative
I meant the late 90's; and I ask that myself, maybe a Clinton supporter can answer that question. We are not the police force of the world, it's time Europe puts up or shuts up.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 1:25:46 PM PST by wvnavyvet
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To: Mihalis
What is the Armenian Genocide?
The atrocities committed against the Armenian people of the Ottoman Empire during W.W.I are called the Armenian Genocide. Genocide is the organized killing of a people for the express purpose of putting an end to their collective existence. Because of its scope, genocide requires central planning and a machinery to implement it. This makes genocide the quintessential state crime as only a government has the resources to carry out such a scheme of destruction. The Armenian Genocide was centrally planned and administered by the Turkish government against the entire Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire. It was carried out during W.W.I between the years 1915 and 1918. The Armenian people was subjected to deportation, expropriation, abduction, torture, massacre, and starvation. The great bulk of the Armenian population was forcibly removed from Armenia and Anatolia to Syria, where the vast majority was sent into the desert to die of thirst and hunger. Large numbers of Armenians were methodically massacred throughout the Ottoman Empire. Women and children were abducted and horribly abused. The entire wealth of the Armenian people was expropriated. After only a little more than a year of calm at the end of W.W.I, the atrocities were renewed between 1920 and 1923, and the remaining Armenians were subjected to further massacres and expulsions. In 1915, thirty-three years before UN Genocide Convention was adopted, the Armenian Genocide was condemned by the international community as a crime against humanity.


Who was responsible for the Armenian Genocide?
The decision to carry out a genocide against the Armenian people was made by the political party in power in the Ottoman Empire. This was the Committee of Union and Progress (CUP) (or Ittihad ve Terakki Jemiyeti), popularly known as the Young Turks. Three figures from the CUP controlled the government; Mehmet Talaat, Minister of the Interior in 1915 and Grand Vizier (Prime Minister) in 1917; Ismail Enver, Minister of War; Ahmed Jemal, Minister of the Marine and Military Governor of Syria. This Young Turk triumvirate relied on other members of the CUP appointed to high government posts and assigned to military commands to carry out the Armenian Genocide. In addition to the Ministry of War and the Ministry of the Interior, the Young Turks also relied on a newly-created secret outfit which they manned with convicts and irregular troops, called the Special Organization (Teshkilati Mahsusa). Its primary function was the carrying out of the mass slaughter of the deported Armenians. In charge of the Special Organization was Behaeddin Shakir, a medical doctor. Moreover, ideologists such as Zia Gokalp propagandized through the media on behalf of the CUP by promoting Pan-Turanism, the creation of a new empire stretching from Anatolia into Central Asia whose population would be exclusively Turkic. These concepts justified and popularized the secret CUP plans to liquidate the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire. The Young Turk conspirators, other leading figures of the wartime Ottoman government, members of the CUP Central Committee, and many provincial administrators responsible for atrocities against the Armenians were indicted for their crimes at the end of the war. The main culprits evaded justice by fleeing the country. Even so, they were tried in absentia and found guilty of capital crimes. The massacres, expulsions, and further mistreatment of the Armenians between 1920 and 1923 were carried by the Turkish Nationalists, who represented a new political movement opposed to the Young Turks, but who shared a common ideology of ethnic exclusivity.


How many people died in the Armenian Genocide?
It is estimated that one and a half million Armenians perished between 1915 and 1923. There were an estimated two million Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire on the eve of W.W.I. Well over a million were deported in 1915. Hundreds of thousands were butchered outright. Many others died of starvation, exhaustion, and epidemics which ravaged the concentration camps. Among the Armenians living along the periphery of the Ottoman Empire many at first escaped the fate of their countrymen in the central provinces of Turkey. Tens of thousands in the east fled to the Russian border to lead a precarious existence as refugees. The majority of the Armenians in Constantinople, the capital city, were spared deportation. In 1918, however, the Young Turk regime took the war into the Caucasus, where approximately 1,800,000 Armenians lived under Russian dominion. Ottoman forces advancing through East Armenia and Azerbaijan here too engaged in systematic massacres. The expulsions and massacres carried by the Nationalist Turks between 1920 and 1922 added tens of thousands of more victims. By 1923 the entire landmass of Asia Minor and historic West Armenia had been expunged of its Armenian population. The destruction of the Armenian communities in this part of the world was total.


Were there witnesses to the Armenian Genocide?
There were many witnesses to the Armenian Genocide. Although the Young Turk government took precautions and imposed restrictions on reporting and photographing, there were lots of foreigners in the Ottoman Empire who witnessed the deportations. Foremost among them were U.S. diplomatic representatives and American missionaries. They were first to send news to the outside world about the unfolding genocide. Some of their reports made headline news in the American and Western media. Also reporting on the atrocities committed against the Armenians were many German eyewitnesses. The Germans were allies of the Turks in W.W.I. Numerous German officers held important military assignments in the Ottoman Empire. Some among them condoned the Young Turk policy. Others confidentially reported to their superiors in Germany about the slaughter of the Armenian civilian population. Many Russians saw for themselves the devastation wreaked upon the Armenian communities when the Russian Army occupied parts of Anatolia. Many Arabs in Syria where most of the deportees were sent saw for themselves the appalling condition to which the Armenian survivors had been reduced. Lastly, many Turkish officials were witnesses as participants in the Armenian Genocide. A number of them gave testimony under oath during the post-war tribunals convened to try the Young Turk conspirators who organized the Armenian Genocide.


What was the response of the international community to the Armenian Genocide?
The international community condemned the Armenian Genocide. In May 1915, Great Britain, France, and Russia advised the Young Turk leaders that they would be held personally responsible for this crime against humanity. There was a strong public outcry in the United States against the mistreatment of the Armenians. At the end of the war, the Allied victors demanded that the Ottoman government prosecute the Young Turks accused of wartime crimes. Relief efforts were also mounted to save "the starving Armenians." The American, British, and German governments sponsored the preparation of reports on the atrocities and numerous accounts were published. On the other hand, despite the moral outrage of the international community, no strong actions were taken against the Ottoman Empire either to sanction its brutal policies or to salvage the Armenian people from the grip of extermination. Moreover, no steps were taken to require the postwar Turkish governments to make restitution to the Armenian people for their immense material and human losses.


Why is the Armenian Genocide commemorated on April 24?
On the night of April 24, 1915, the Turkish government placed under arrest over 200 Armenian community leaders in Constantinople. Hundreds more were apprehended soon after. They were all sent to prison in the interior of Anatolia, where most were summarily executed. The Young Turk regime had long been planning the Armenian Genocide and reports of atrocities being committed against the Armenians in the eastern war zones had been filtering in during the first months of 1915. The Ministry of War had already acted on the government's plan by disarming the Armenian recruits in the Ottoman Army, reducing them to labor battalions and working them under conditions equaling slavery. The incapacitation and methodic reduction of the Armenian male population, as well as the summary arrest and execution of the Armenian leadership marked the earliest stages of the Armenian Genocide. These acts were committed under the cover of a news blackout on account of the war and the government proceeded to implement its plans to liquidate the Armenian population with secrecy. Therefore, the Young Turks regime's true intentions went undetected until the arrests of April 24. As the persons seized that night included the most prominent public figures of the Armenian community in the capital city of the Ottoman Empire, everyone was alerted about the dimensions of the policies being entertained and implemented by the Turkish government. Their death presaged the murder of an ancient civilization. April 24 is, therefore, commemorated as the date of the unfolding of the Armenian Genocide.


Are the Armenian massacres acknowledged today as a Genocide according to the United Nations Genocide Convention?
The United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, describes genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." Clearly this definition applies in the case of the atrocities committed against the Armenians. Because the U.N. Convention was adopted in 1948, thirty years after the Armenian Genocide, Armenians worldwide have sought from their respective governments formal acknowledgment of the crimes committed during W.W.I. Countries like France, Argentina, Greece, and Russia, where the survivors of the Armenian Genocide and their descendants live, have officially recognized the Armenian Genocide. However, as a matter of policy, the present-day Republic of Turkey adamantly denies that a genocide was committed against the Armenians during W.W.I. Moreover, Turkey dismisses the evidence about the atrocities as mere allegations and regularly obstructs efforts for acknowledgment. Affirming the truth about the Armenian Genocide, therefore, has become an issue of international significance. The recurrence of genocide in the twentieth century has made the reaffirmation of the historic acknowledgment of the criminal mistreatment of the Armenians by Turkey all the more a compelling obligation for the international community.
18 posted on 12/16/2003 1:39:44 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Hillary Al-Muscovy (If it waddles like a Russian duck, Quacks like a Russian duck etc))
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To: RussianConservative
I'm not stopping anywhere :) I was addressing the Armenian issue since that was the subjest of the article posted.
19 posted on 12/16/2003 1:59:58 PM PST by BossLady (Jailer: Yes, Saddam the Noriega Suite is available..........)
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To: eleni121
I read recently that the US Congress was considering it but that VP Cheney and Defense guy Wolfowitz led the charge against such a resolution. Another reason I do not consider "neo-cons" to be true conservatives. Conservatism implies a recognition of truth.
20 posted on 12/16/2003 2:15:11 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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