[meenie]

Very true. Both instances show the true intentions of the Chinese. Yet we humor them and appease them because of the mistaken notion it is in our business interests to do so. Sad, but economic interests take presidence over freedom and security everywhere.

[Cronos]

Exactly, and we will still appease them and we're going to the largest democracy India and fledgling democracy Russia into alliances with china to keep it at bay -- it's a no hoper but they may have no choice. On the other hand if we get a bit more forceful and support the Russians and Indians in containing China we could have an upper hand.