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Bush to Propose Broad AmnestyTell Congress to Say No!
FAIR ^ | 12-24-03 | Fair staff

Posted on 12/24/2003 10:32:04 AM PST by Klickitat

Bush to Propose Broad Amnesty Tell Congress to Say No! We regret having to interrupt your holiday season with bad news on the immigration reform front, but the Washington Post reports this morning that President Bush and Karl Rove-in order to appeal to Hispanic voters-are poised to announce a sweeping amnesty plan during the second week of January. If you like amnesty, mass legal immigration, and the continued unprecedented decline in the American economic standard of living, you'll love President Bush's proposal.

While the details of the plan remain unclear, President Bush is expected to propose an outline modeled after legislation currently pending in the House and Senate, H.R.2899 and S.1461. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and Representatives James Kolbe (R-AZ) and Jeff Flake (R-AZ) introduced these bills. This upcoming plan will undoubtedly reflect what President Bush meant when he announced last week at a press conference that he wants to match "any willing worker with any willing employer."

Why Your Help is Needed Now

President Bush and Karl Rove are convinced that this plan will appeal to Hispanic voters without offending his Republican base. In order for Bush to make his immigration proposal a reality, however, he will need to convince the leadership of the House of Representatives to press his plans on their Republican House colleagues who know better.

Here's How You Can Help:

First, send a free faxed message from our web site to President Bush, House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL) and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

Follow up your faxes with phone calls. Call the White House comment line at 202-456-1111 and leave a brief message telling the president no to his amnesty plan. Call the Speaker's office at 202-225-0600 and the Leader's office at 202-225-4000 and leave a brief message. Tell Speaker Hastert and Leader DeLay that Republicans should not abandon their law and order principles by advancing the open borders policies preferred by Democrats.

Your faxes and phone calls will be needed continuously over the course of at least the next three weeks. Please ask your friends, family, and coworkers to follow your lead in making their voices heard as well.

Talking Points:

Giving illegal aliens legal status does nothing to improve our national security. In fact it would take years and years to do background checks on the estimated 9-11 million illegal aliens who could be eligible for amnesty. An illegal alien who was amnestied in 1986, after all, later masterminded the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.

Any guestworker program leading to legal status for illegal aliens is an amnesty and threatens homeland security by encouraging more illegal immigration. Every time an elected official talks about the possibility of granting amnesty to illegal aliens, it says to would-be illegal aliens that they had better get into the United States while the getting is good.

This program would reward people who have cheated the system with permanent residence. This country is based on the rule of law-it should not be manipulated by people who have cheated their way to the front of the line.

The current recovery from economic recession is unique in post World War II recoveries in that it comes without any benefit for American workers-just more offshore job outsourcing, low paying jobs, and an accompanying decline in the nation's standard of living. This new guestworker program may match any willing employer with any willing worker, but for American workers this means being displaced by cheap foreign labor and declining wages and working conditions for those fortunate enough to find or keep a job.


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1 posted on 12/24/2003 10:32:05 AM PST by Klickitat
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To: gubamyster; JustPiper; Missouri
Latest action alert from fair. Anybody interested in taking action (yet again) it lists options. Either way hope you have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
2 posted on 12/24/2003 10:34:15 AM PST by Klickitat
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
Merry Christmas
3 posted on 12/24/2003 10:36:01 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Klickitat
I have called and sent faxes.. Sam Francis a year ago said this was going to happen.. I don't believe that Bush et al thinks that this will give them the Hispanic vote.. Then what IS the motive??

Also, the same exact reason (for immigration -regarding doing jobs no one in the general population will take)is used in Europe by the EU.. What or who or which group is doing this and more importantly WHY?

4 posted on 12/24/2003 10:38:45 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: Klickitat
If this is true, it is disgusting
5 posted on 12/24/2003 10:40:10 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: Klickitat
And don't bother with the Democrats.

Bring pressure to bear on the REPUBLICANS. Make them believe they won't get your vote if they support this crap.
6 posted on 12/24/2003 10:42:12 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: Zipporah
Gang, this is your "Two-Party Cartel" run by the elitists. They now passed legislation to thwart any competition. Only when you start at the next election to throw out virtually all incumbants. But of course many will still vote for GW & get the same. These pols with the willing media will make this place a third world country much faster than the Mulsims. Maybe Tancredo will run for president.
7 posted on 12/24/2003 10:48:51 AM PST by Digger
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To: Digger
YOU are so right.. when you say "two-party cartel".. It's funny they did such a great job of making Buchanan look like a nut.. but he was right.

Is there any place to run? I only wish Tancredo would run.. He's the only Republican I would vote for.. at this point.

9 posted on 12/24/2003 10:55:26 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
The Reconquista bunch wants this to take back California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas. The Bushite Republicans want cheap labor and the Democrats want the votes.
10 posted on 12/24/2003 11:05:05 AM PST by GunsareOK
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To: GunsareOK
Welcome to the USSA.. absolutely contrary to the will of the people..the elitist scum.
11 posted on 12/24/2003 11:10:18 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
What or who or which group is doing this and more importantly WHY?

True --- I really don't think this is for votes ---- Bush couldn't be naive enough to think it is. Hispanics in the SW aren't any more thrilled with their high property taxes and auto insurance rates due to high indigent immigration from Mexico.

12 posted on 12/24/2003 11:14:50 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
This is tyranny..
13 posted on 12/24/2003 11:16:50 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: Klickitat
I sent my faxes - good link, get the word out. I added the following two paragraphs to one that I selected from the website:

I"f you don't fix the current problems that ignore illegal immigration, you will only be compounding the problem by offering amnesty to those that are already here.

Pandering to the Mexican voters by passing such legislation will backfire in our house, which is made up of South American family members that became citizens legally. "
14 posted on 12/24/2003 11:18:20 AM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: Zipporah
Politicians creed: "I got mine", "where's yours"?
If they were on the ticket last time I will not vote for them next time, no matter what. All incumbents must go.
Nor will I vote for a Democrat.
15 posted on 12/24/2003 11:20:43 AM PST by drypowder
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To: StoneColdGOP
I will bring pressure on the GOP by voting indp in 04.

When the stupid GOP is out for the next 8 years maybe, just maybe, one guy will figure out they can NEVER win without conservative vote.


The perhaps we can move forward ( after the 8 years) with a conservative agenda.

And Yes - I am Bush Bashing!
16 posted on 12/24/2003 11:26:48 AM PST by Kay Soze (A conservtaive is one that votes for "W" ONLY to keep a Democrat out of office.)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Make them believe they won't get your vote if they support this crap.

I'm setting this one out they can believe it are not.

17 posted on 12/24/2003 11:28:01 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: StoneColdGOP
I will bring pressure on the GOP by voting indp in 04.

When the stupid GOP is out for the next 8 years maybe, just maybe, one guy will figure out they can NEVER win without conservative vote.


The perhaps we can move forward ( after the 8 years) with a conservative agenda.

And Yes - I am Bush Bashing!
18 posted on 12/24/2003 11:28:44 AM PST by Kay Soze (A conservtaive is one that votes for "W" ONLY to keep Democrats out of office.Yes I am Bush bashing!)
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To: FITZ
I have two words you should understand: Social Security.

Making the Mexican immigrants legal allow us to collect SS tax $ and pay for the baby boomer retirement. I work as a retirement plan actuary and been saying for 25 years that we'll have to let them in so we can pay for Social Security benefits. Amnesty puts all of them on the SS tax rolls and their relative young demographic couterbalances the aging Boomers.

It's going to happen because it has to!

So the true effort of you and me has to be to make sure they are educated to be AMERICANS, just as it was for the immigrants of the late 1800's.
19 posted on 12/24/2003 11:40:13 AM PST by TommyC1
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To: Klickitat
From the Washington Post article:

Rep. Richard A. Gephardt (Mo.) calls his the Earned Legalization and Family Reunification program. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.) has called immigration reform "another broken promise" by Bush. Former Vermont governor Howard Dean told the Arizona Republic's editorial board that he favors earned legalization for undocumented workers who have been in the country for some time and have committed no crimes, but he sounded a note of skepticism about a guest-worker program like that proposed by McCain.

NOW in reading this.. is Bush proposing THIS as well? What this will mean, imagine what this will bring? ONE Mexican man brings his family ..how many are in HIS family? Multiply that by the millions that NOW are in this country..

HOW is actually advancing this? AND why?

20 posted on 12/24/2003 11:40:14 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: Klickitat
I've written, e-mailed, and faxed. It never seems to do any good. Both major parties in this country seem hell bent on giving the country away.
21 posted on 12/24/2003 11:42:28 AM PST by vladog
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To: TommyC1
"Making the Mexican immigrants legal allows us to collect SS tax $ and pay for the baby boomer retirement."

The problem is they all work under the table, and don't pay taxes or into Social Security. They're leeches. They TAKE, not contribute.

22 posted on 12/24/2003 11:45:35 AM PST by holyscroller
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To: TommyC1
If this is the answer to the SS mess proposed by the GOP.............

They can forget about another vote or dollar from this WhiteGuy.

I'll concentrate on promoting the agendda of the freedom loving constitutionalists of our nation, PERIOD.

23 posted on 12/24/2003 11:50:33 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: holyscroller
Just their medical costs trump any tax contribution they MIGHT make.

Trumps it by a factor of several!

Illgals come into the ER at Desert Regional Medical center in Palm Springs sometimes for just their teeth hurtiun!

Big big dollars Senoir Bush is costing us.

Gore would have been cheaper.

24 posted on 12/24/2003 11:52:29 AM PST by Kay Soze (A conservtaive is one that votes for "W" ONLY to keep Democrats out of office.Yes I am Bush bashing!)
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To: TommyC1
Amnesty puts all of them on the SS tax rolls

...and adds millions to the Democratic voter rolls.

25 posted on 12/24/2003 12:11:38 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Klickitat
Faxed and bumped!
26 posted on 12/24/2003 12:11:46 PM PST by djreece
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To: TommyC1
They have too high of a welfare rate and high school drop out rate for us to count on them. We just don't need the millions from Mexico who come here with no job skills, no education, no English language ability to bail out this country. Welfare rates along the border exceed 50% in many counties. Low skilled labor jobs are leaving the country, not coming in.

Here's a typical immigrant high school ---- lots of violent crime besides 12 year olds having babies ---- don't count on them to save Social Security ---- they need lifelong welfare programs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1045561/posts

27 posted on 12/24/2003 12:12:45 PM PST by FITZ
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To: WackyKat
If the borders were actually sealed, then it might be time to consider such things. But with the chance that anyone could come in anytime they want even after this special grant, there is no point.
28 posted on 12/24/2003 12:13:32 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: Klickitat
 

Tell Congress to Say No!

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29 posted on 12/24/2003 12:20:39 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Klickitat
Just like a scurrilous and conniving politician to attempt floating a piece of offal like this passed the American Citizen in the dead of night, or on a holiday weekend ... generally when the attention of the citizenry can predictably be focused elsewhere. Sneaky b@$#*@&*$.

President George Bush [Mr.Straight-Up] should be ashamed of himself.

30 posted on 12/24/2003 12:27:01 PM PST by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: GunsareOK
What you said deserves a Bump!!

g in AZ

31 posted on 12/24/2003 12:35:57 PM PST by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: Klickitat
I plan to call the day Congress gets back from their break. The timing of this thing is interesting isn't it.
32 posted on 12/24/2003 1:09:16 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: VU4G10
I do not know if any one realizes this, but you can sign up more than one on the numbersusa, if you have a husband, wife, or some one that does not have a computer. You will have to fill in all the information for each.

After you have sent your faxes, click on home, on the link below your name, click here to log on another person, right middle of screen, It will take you back to the sign up page, where you fill in the name of another person.

I have relatives that do not have computers, so they wanted me to fax for them. Just make sure you ask if they want you to fax, before you sign them up.

I fax for 21 people, takes me quite a while, but I get it done.
33 posted on 12/24/2003 1:10:31 PM PST by calawah98
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To: Kay Soze
You're a liberal. If you would have voted for Gore, and you're voting to keep Bush out in '04, then you're a liberal, no matter what you say.

Sorry, Kay, but Bush is going to win in '04, without you.

Stew, if you must.

35 posted on 12/24/2003 1:15:47 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Klickitat
...President Bush and Karl Rove-in order to appeal to Hispanic voters-are poised to announce a sweeping amnesty plan during the second week of January...

This is a stinking outrage! Rewarding lawbreakers, tax and welfare cheats with amnesty!

To borrow the words of George Sr, this aggression will NOT STAND!!

36 posted on 12/24/2003 1:16:31 PM PST by Walkin Man (McJobs for all...The Great Wall-Mart is hiring!)
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To: TomInNJ
Bush is alienating millions and millions of white people with his immigration fiasco policies. Approximately 80 million white people will stay home next November 4.

Wanna bet?

37 posted on 12/24/2003 1:17:16 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Klickitat
bttt
38 posted on 12/24/2003 1:19:05 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: All
We can generate tons of mail and burn up the phones if we get cranked up. Let's tell anyone who is for this that they can forget our votes.

40 posted on 12/24/2003 1:22:49 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA
Gee, you don't even know what you are protesting, yet. Just rumors from a shaky source.
41 posted on 12/24/2003 1:24:29 PM PST by Timmy
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To: Zipporah
Then what IS the motive??

The same as it has always been for the Republicans...DIRT CHEAP LABOR!

With the added "benefit" of driving down wages for law-abiding, tax-paying Americans.

The Rat party OTOH, wants the illegal flood across the Mexican/US border to continue because they are natural demoRat voters.

So you see because both parties want them they will NEVER really do anything that would stop the Mexican takeover of the southwestern USA.

To quote Texas Dawg "We are doomed!"

42 posted on 12/24/2003 1:25:47 PM PST by Walkin Man (McJobs for all...The Great Wall-Mart is hiring!)
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To: Walkin Man
You know I thought it was bad with Clinton.. I would much rather have someone preoccuping himself with his self gratification that having someone run amuck ..since it is WELL KNOWN that the La Raza/Azlan/Mecha agenda is.. taking over the SW.
43 posted on 12/24/2003 1:29:21 PM PST by Zipporah
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To: sinkspur
Sinkspur what's your take on this, other than bash those who disagree with Bush's latest domestic stinker?
45 posted on 12/24/2003 1:30:20 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Timmy
Bush is all for amnesty for criminal aliens. The only thing that can stop him is if it looks like pandering to the criminals hurts his reelection bid.

The ONE thing that means more to Bush than anything else is retaining power. He will do ANYTHING he thinks will keep him in office. If amnesty for criminal aliens looks like it will cost more votes than it gains he will dump the idea faster than Monica dropped her drawers.

47 posted on 12/24/2003 1:34:10 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: Klickitat
"...he wants to match `any willing worker with any willing employer.' "

So is he going to remove the cap on LEGAL immigration that makes people wait for the visa lottery to hit? That's the problem with the current system -- although there may be jobs available for willing foreigners, they can't get them under the immigration cap laws. The ones who can get those jobs are the illegals from Mexico. There are plenty of willing and educated foreigners in Eastern Europe and the Sub-Continent who are willing to legally immigrate to the United States but who can't. Why should the Mexicans get preferencial treatment by coming in illegally?

48 posted on 12/24/2003 1:37:47 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Zipporah
If Rove goes ahead with this plan, he is really going to PO lots of allies.

This will only strengthen the hand of the demoRats, not to mention, give them about 8 million new voters!

Apparently the Republicans want to commit political suicide!

49 posted on 12/24/2003 1:38:02 PM PST by Walkin Man (McJobs for all...The Great Wall-Mart is hiring!)
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To: TomInNJ
Approximately 80 million white people will stay home next November 4.


Home from what? Where are they going to be next November 4? If you mean the election and voting then that is on November 2.....

80 Million..... where are you getting such a number? Bet you can't provide a source....... unless you mean that maybe the total that doesn't vote period and I'd say 80 million maybe low. There were only 105 million to vote in 2000. So almost 80% of those that voted last time aren't going to vote this go round? 50 Million voted for the democrat...
50 posted on 12/24/2003 1:43:16 PM PST by deport
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