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More Firearms Equal More Grief, Loss of Life
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | 26 December 2003 | Officer Pat Barr

Posted on 12/26/2003 5:24:35 PM PST by buccaneer81

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Local/State > Editorials More firearms equal more grief, loss of life Friday, December 26, 2003

As the debate over the concealed carry of handguns continues, I am baffled that any law-enforcement officer or agency would come out in favor of the bill. I applaud Gov. Bob Taft; obviously, he is a man of conviction and common sense.

I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

There have been about 105 homicides in just Columbus this year, many of them involving firearms. Without looking at the statistics, I’ll bet not one of the firearms used was a weapon registered to the suspect, purchased legally or that the suspect completed any firearms training.

Folks, I have a newsflash for you: Most of the firearms used in shooting and homicide incidents are stolen during burglaries or from automobiles. Very rarely are they legitimately owned.

I have been a police officer in Columbus for almost 24 years. Having spent most of that time on the street and in homicide, I have knocked on many doors to tell family members that someone they loved wouldn’t be coming home because someone with a firearm had ended their loved one’s life.

I watched the TV coverage of the "peaceful" pro-carry rally at the Statehouse by those who claim it is their right to carry a firearm. One man was wearing a pearl-handled .44 Magnum in a Western-style holster. He’s just what we need standing in line next to a family while they wait to get into a Blue Jackets game. After years of seeing firsthand the grief, suffering and loss of life, quite frankly the thought makes me sick.

And these same people are fighting public access to records of the people issued permits to carry concealed firearms. Well, it’s my right, should this bill ever pass, God forbid, to know who they are!

OFFICER PAT BARR

Columbus Division of Police


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: antiguncop; bang; banglist; ccw; columbus; jackbootedthug
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From my experience, this officer is part of a distinct minority of LEOs. His attitude is condescending and patronizing at best. He is part of the problem.
1 posted on 12/26/2003 5:24:35 PM PST by buccaneer81
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To: Orangedog; TonyRo76; flutters; midwestmidnight
Ping...
2 posted on 12/26/2003 5:25:46 PM PST by buccaneer81
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To: buccaneer81
If banning firearms is the solution to crime and violence, then banning word processors is the solution to stupid articles like this one.
3 posted on 12/26/2003 5:25:56 PM PST by bcoffey
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To: buccaneer81
What a load!
4 posted on 12/26/2003 5:27:48 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: bcoffey
Where was the BARF alert!!!
5 posted on 12/26/2003 5:27:57 PM PST by George from New England
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To: bcoffey
bttt
6 posted on 12/26/2003 5:29:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: buccaneer81
A few years ago two police officers were debating gun control on a short lived show hosted by Ron Reagan Jr.

The White officer was against control and the Black one was for it. When Ron mentioned that overwhelmingly police were in favor of gun control, the Black officer had enough integrity to tell him that no, in a nationwide survey of street cops by a police supply company, they were about 90% against more gun controls.

7 posted on 12/26/2003 5:31:41 PM PST by yarddog
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To: buccaneer81; *bang_list
Well, it’s my right, should this bill ever pass, God forbid, to know who they are!

If the sentence that includes "Shall not infringe" isn't taken seriously, why should we think he has any Rights?

8 posted on 12/26/2003 5:32:07 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: George from New England
Where was the BARF alert!!!

Sorry, my bad. I know better.

9 posted on 12/26/2003 5:32:11 PM PST by buccaneer81
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There have been about 105 homicides in just Columbus this year, many of them involving firearms. Without looking at the statistics, I’ll bet not one of the firearms used was a weapon registered to the suspect, purchased legally or that the suspect completed any firearms training.

He's an idiot. He just said criminals don't obey gun laws so let's punish the stand up citizens. He's an idiot. He should be fired on the general principle that he's probably a danger to society since his thought processes are in the retarded range.

10 posted on 12/26/2003 5:33:21 PM PST by go star go
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He even admits that the majority of guns used in crime are
illegal to begin with, yet he wants those who own legal guns to not be able to defend themselves.

Baaah.
11 posted on 12/26/2003 5:34:03 PM PST by tet68
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To: buccaneer81
From my experience, this officer is part of a distinct minority of LEOs. His attitude is condescending and patronizing at best. He is part of the problem

This is not a guy that wants to be a cop. This is a guy that wants to be the chief of police.

12 posted on 12/26/2003 5:35:32 PM PST by papertyger
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To: buccaneer81
Well, where to start.... Lets see... a 24 year LE veteran that is still an "officer" Not detective, not invetsigator, not sergeant, Lieutenant or Captain. Just Officer. That alone speaks volumes. I cannot get over the "blue madness" that seems to overcome cops. They feel that because they carry a badge and gun, that they have been imbued with jedi-like knowledge far beyond mere mortals. I saw it while I was in LE and even more now that I am a PI. But, Officer Barr represents the WORST of the worst.

Semper Fi

13 posted on 12/26/2003 5:36:02 PM PST by Trident/Delta (Free Republic....where information is the ULTIMATE weapon)
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To: buccaneer81
I am baffled that any law-enforcement officer or agency would come out in favor of the bill.

Probably because most have wives/girlfriends/children/neighbors that they can't be around 24 hours a day to protect, and because as "first responders" they get to see the worst of the worst when it comes to predators attacking sheep.

I applaud Gov. Bob Taft; obviously, he is a man of conviction and common sense.

Yeah, just like Adolf Hitler, who also favored gun control.

I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

Well, it makes *me* safer. Anyway, if this jackboot really wanted to get guns off the street, maybe he should start by turning his in.

There have been about 105 homicides in just Columbus this year, many of them involving firearms

So what. ALL of the rapes in Columbus involved penises. Don't you understand the difference between causation and correlation?

Without looking at the statistics, I’ll bet not one of the firearms used was a weapon registered to the suspect, purchased legally or that the suspect completed any firearms training.

Exactly right. And they all carried without a CCW law in place.

Folks, I have a newsflash for you: Most of the firearms used in shooting and homicide incidents are stolen during burglaries or from automobiles. Very rarely are they legitimately owned.

Right again.

I watched the TV coverage of the "peaceful" pro-carry rally at the Statehouse by those who claim it is their right to carry a firearm

Gee, is it also "peaceful" when a bunch of uniformed cops stand around munching donuts while carrying openly?

One man was wearing a pearl-handled .44 Magnum in a Western-style holster. He’s just what we need standing in line next to a family while they wait to get into a Blue Jackets game

Actually, the last thing, We the People need, is some rotten SOB like you carrying a taxpayer-funded gun telling the rest of us that we can't carry ours.

And these same people are fighting public access to records of the people issued permits to carry concealed firearms.

Let's see... first you say most firearms used in crimes are stolen (which is correct), then you suggest publishing the names and addresses of gun owners. Do you see an inherent contradiction there?

Well, it’s my right, should this bill ever pass, God forbid, to know who they are!

Since you're so eager to learn about people exercising their Rights, why don't you make your name and address public information? Or are you "too important" for that?

14 posted on 12/26/2003 5:36:11 PM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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..more Firearms Equal More Grief, Loss of Life...

That's a lie.

Tell this LEO to visit Downunder, and see how crime has exploded since the introduction of our harsh gun laws.

15 posted on 12/26/2003 5:38:14 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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"I am baffled that any law-enforcement officer or agency would come out in favor of the bill." - officer Pat Barr

One of the new breed who's been completely brainwashed by the leftist-socialist agenda.

16 posted on 12/26/2003 5:38:24 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: buccaneer81
Officer Barr can set the example by leaving his gun in his locker when he goes off-shift.
17 posted on 12/26/2003 5:38:53 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: buccaneer81
I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

We've been explaining it to these dolts. They simply refuse to see reason. These idiot soccer moms want to accept no responsibility for the protection of themselves and their families. "That's why we have police!" is their moronic battle cry.

18 posted on 12/26/2003 5:39:40 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: Trident/Delta
Hey how is it as a PI? Is it something you'd recommend as a career?
19 posted on 12/26/2003 5:43:23 PM PST by go star go
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To: buccaneer81
And these same people are fighting public access to records of the people issued permits to carry concealed firearms. Well, it’s my right, should this bill ever pass, God forbid, to know who they are!

And just where is the "right" cited by this donut-choking fool enumerated?

20 posted on 12/26/2003 5:43:35 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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